Why isnt pro-choice called pro-womens-choice?

Question

Pro-choice makes it sound that everyone has the choice on the life they created but rather it is only the choice of the woman who holds that creation in their body.

lady_b
I think you might have missed the point of my question. It is why do people call it pro-choice when in fact it should be pro-womens-choice.

James that is a rediculous argument and frankly I would expect a more logical argument from a man. You bring up a different argument all together. BTW women are only a holding place for a creation between 2 people. That by no means should give her and only her, the right to kill the creation, what because she has to hold it for nine months. That creation has a possibility of a 100 year life and you talk nine months.

Cine
What you answered was all pro-womans-choice. The man is a passenger.

Answer 1

Well they say: "her body, her choice"

Is it "her" responsibility?

No, they drag the man back in to finance "her" decisions.

He gets ZERO say.

If it's "her" body & "her" choice, don't pull "him" into "her" domain only when it's convenient.

This system is yet another example of "male privilege" I guess.

So to answer the question:

It's not called "pro-women's-choice" because that makes this blatant shakedown more obvious.

EDIT:

Jo:

Same thing could be said for women that "should've taken the pill."

The problem with that argument is... abortion is legal. Women can walk away LEGALLY from parenthood. Men can't.

Sorry, but it's still not right.

Answer 2

If that is how you feel? Then lobby against it to change the wording from "pro-choice" to "pro-women's-choice." And if all you want to do is just continuously debate about a subject that is an issue that is never ending? Then all you are doing is boiling the water in the kettle to blow steam.

If you want to make a change where a man has a say in the decision making? Then lobby for it. Be like the Feminist and fight for your right to have a say. Create something of value, instead of useless words that means nothing on here, but would mean something in Law. If you and the men who don't want what they created destroyed by the pro-choice option, and can admit that you will support the child from the time it is born to the time they are 18 and that you wouldn't abandon the support if and when you decide to move on with another woman? Then, maybe you would be able to have a voice. But from now until then? It remains as it is..."PRO-CHOICE."

Even if it DOES pass for a man to have a say? It's not a guarantee that the woman will ever tell you she was pregnant to your child. It's easy to tell a medical physician that they don't know who the father is or it was a one night stand with someone they didn't know.

Answer 3

It's because the issue is bigger than "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion". Pro-choice politics also include the use of contraception, which makes the "who gets to decide what happens with the baby" issue moot. Pro-life's party line says contraception of any sort, used for any reason, is immoral.

Basically, it's not pro-woman's-choice because while the woman gets the final say on whether the baby lives or dies, one would think that the sort of man who wants children would have discussed this issue with his partner before the situation reaches the "should she or shouldn't she get an abortion" discussion. The woman chooses to use contraception or have an abortion. The man chooses to use contraception and/or get involved with a woman who would have an abortion.

EDIT: I think you're confused about my position. To clarify, I'm anti-abortion, but pro-choice. For me, the two things are not mutually exclusive. Hormonal contraception is something which women have the option to use, and both sexes may use barrier protection. If an egg is not fertilized, there is no embryo, no fetus, and therefore no"life they created", no "creation in [the woman's] body".
Abortion, on the other hand, is the destruction of an embryo or fetus which may grow to viability. While there are certain situations where the man should have no say in whether a woman should have an abortion (rape, one night stand), one would hope that if a couple is mature enough to have sex, they are mature enough to discuss birth control and "what would happen if..." scenarios before children become possible. Therefore, in an ideal relationship which is both long-term and healthy, *they* choose whether they want children or not. *She* doesn't decide on her own.

Answer 4

Because pro-choice is so much easier to say, and sounds less sexist. Personally I'm pro-life (and not the extreme pro-lifers that KILL abortion doctors, cause that sure ain't supporting life). But if I was a pro-choice I wouldn't make the decision by myself. The baby is not mine and mine alone. It would be part of the father. And so it would be both of our choices.

Though, I don't see how their is a 'choice.' If a pregnant women is killed, the killer is charged on two counts of murder; killing the mother and the unborn child; yet mothers who had abortioned get off scott-free. Two people say 'Well I was raped, I shouldn't have to keep the baby.' It is really really really terrable and sad that they were raped, but why punish the innocent child? You don't HAVE to keep it, put it up for adoption. Or the people 'It's a life and death situation.' The only time it is so dangerous (that I can think of) that the would kill and there is no time to save both mother and baby is tubal pregnancy (were the baby grows inside the flyopien(sp?) tube instead of the uturus) at all other times, wait until you can deliever the child pre-maturely. Then both survive.

Now i know, most people are looking at this and thinking, "Wow, this girl is a cold hearted b****" and who knows, maybe that is true, but it's also true to those who kill off their innocent child before it even has a chance to live.


(and another agruement for pro-life) If the baby is nothing more then a bunch of cells that need the mother to survive, so the mother can do with it as she pleases, cut off your arm. I mean its only a bunch of cells that need the 'mother' to survive off of.

Answer 5

This is assuming that the father of the baby is

a) involved
b) not abusive

Barring the above type of "fathers", I would hope a woman would involve the father of her child in the decision. But the bottom line is, it is the WOMAN'S body. If the woman does not involve the man, I would be willing to bet lots of money that she is afraid of his input, for whatever reason...in which case, she has every right to make the decision on her own.

I don't need anyone's explanation as to why they feel it necessary to go through something that traumatic. This is a huge decision, and the vast majority of women don't take it lightly. Whatever decision a woman makes has most likely been very well thought out, and I for one am fully willing to trust that she knows what is the best course of action.

So, I guess my answer is that it is, and should be, pro-women's-choice. However, the currently used wording assumes that men are involved in the decision...and they are in many cases.

Answer 6

Actually, if you take into account couples who have elected to use the pro-choice option, both have utilized that right by choosing. On the other hand, those who make the decision on their own, which in this case would be the female, have also utilized that choice, per se.

It works both ways. If any man can ever say that they had a part in the decision making on a pro-choice option, then that would discount the usage of the term "pro-women's-choice." It would most certainly put to rest the countless debate of pro-choice as being a decision ONLY a woman can have. It would make those men be a hypocrite amongst his own gender and would plagiarize that issue as being solely for women. Wouldn't it?

Answer 7

For the same reason they don't call a man's erection and what he chooses to do with it pro men's choice it goes without saying, but I will for those who don't get it. Women have the choice because it is their body involved in the growth of the child. Men not wanting a child can choose to masturbate instead.

Answer 8

it's our body. why should another human being tell us what should occur within our body for the next nine months?

over 500,000 women die in childbirth each year. giving birth is a serious decison that affects a woman (and, hopefully, aman) economically, socially, etc.

woman alone seem to be attacked for the decision to abort although in many cases, the man may have had a say.

my friend's husband had her get two abortions. later, they had 2 children.

hopscotch: you have a choice....wear a condom

Answer 9

As long as women are the ones carrying and sustaining the babies, abortion will always be a lopsided issue. I personally believe that if a woman wants an abortion, she shouldn't even tell the father that she's pregnant.

Answer 10

OK, and "pro-lifers" are almost always really "anti-woman's-choice", or perhaps, "pro-MEN's-choice-over-unrelated-women". It's a little long and cumbersome to say, but you're right, it's more accurate.