Is there a "San Francisco/Left Coast" political culture that the rest of the Country doesn't share?

Question

My husband was born & grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area and I lived there for two years ( '03 to '05) while he attended that bastion of 60's wacko liberalism; UC Berkeley

I want to hear from people across the country. What is YOUR take on the Catholic church desicration, the refusual of that city as home port to a Battleship, Mayor Newsome's campaign to promote Homosexual Marrage, Nancy Pelosi's home district, and now Rep. Stark's very distasteful remarks about our troops and Pres. Bush.

The desicration occured some few days ago when several members of the cross-dressing "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence (who habitually mock christians and their beliefs) attended a mass at the cities largest cathedral and took communion from the Archbishop of San Francisco in their pseudo-catholic robes and did a "kissy hug" immediately after to disrupt the service, and it was fimed! Partaking of the Holy Sacrement is an act of desicration in the church.

Mr. Barry C claims to not have heard about The absolutely outragious comments by Rep Stark. OK, so if I watched CNN or PMSNBC I probablt wouldn't have heard about it either, because the left just doesn't report news that would detract from hating Bush or its vehiment anti-war agenda.

Answer 1

That area is a world unto its own. Its nice to know that people like you exist. I'm not a churchgoer, believer, atheist or am I going to defend the church for any other matter except for the discriminatory action taken by those who desecrated the church and its right to assemblage. Had any similar actions been taken that mocked their movement it would be all "fire and brimstone".

The thing is that the hippie movement was anti-authoritarian and in such an idealism, anything approaching authority or anything that reminded them of their upbringing was dismissed in favor of an "anything goes" morality. The disturbing aspect is that in the end, they are very much like their antithesis. That is, when someone of another political or demographic idealology opposes them, they (ultra-liberals) end up resorting to autocratic methods of suppression of your right to discuss things openly. They don't want to hear your side of it.

Similarly, you have what occurred in that church.

That said, how all this gets handled around the Bay area is despicable. Out here on the East coast I don't follow the goings-on in the press, but I am appalled at the lack of opposition toward such outrageous tactics that the gay community resorted to. I would accept an announcement along the lines of "While the LGBT community is one of tolerance and acceptance of those whom live a lifestyle their own, we do not condone the disruption and/or lack of respect that some members of the community showed toward the (catholic?) church."

But there was none that I know of. Why? Because the San Francisco area is overrun by those whom wish to force their idealism down our throats under the guise of acceptance for people of another sexual preference. Of course, if one has no desire for or respect of authority, then why not put on a drag show in a church and continue disrespecting other areas of the community at large? I'd like to see them try a stunt like that in other churches, not out of evening the score or embarrassing the churches or synagogues, but to see what sort of backlash would come from such actions - that is, if they had the spine to do so.

Its a strange, strange world out there.

Answer 2

Maybe they are Catholics.

I am not Catholic, but I have attended mass with my GF many times in many churches. The prayer books I have read always ask people politely to not take communion if they are not Catholic, but hey don't strictly forbid it.

As for Gay Marriage, that is a trend that won;t be stopped - count HI, MA, VT, and NJ at the very least as far down that path already, further then California. None of them are within 3000 miles of California.

There are lots of military ships and museums in SF already - have you looked? There are lots more docked and rusting in the Bay, just north and around the bend from Berkeley, closer to Contra Costa county. You can see dozens, maybe hundreds of them from the highway.

I guess a lot of other cities don't want those ships either, but they are polluting OUR waters.

Pelosi? If you lived here long enough to vote, then you had your say, but now it is not your district.

Stark? Haven't heard his comments, but is it really out of line with what others have been saying for years about the end of the war? I don't think so.

Don't mistake political posturing and freedom of speech for being un-American. Actually it is the opposite - not being able to recognize it and appreciate it is un-American.

Diversity is the spice of life, and that includes opinions. What, we should all think exactly like you? Why are you so special?

PS - if you want to see more church descration on film, maybe you should watch the very early, pre-Polyester John Waters movies. You will see far worse then anything you described. But John is not from California, but my hometown of Baltimore, again 3000 miles away!

Answer 3

San Francisco definitely follows their own path, which is often at odds with most of the country, even the more liberl leaning cities and states.

While I am a "live and let live" person, it does seem that San Francisco takes their rhetoric a little over the top at times. On the plus side, they're not hypocrites about their beliefs: they walk the walk too.

But the problem with San Francisco is that as dedicated to freedom as they claim to be, they only seem to want to apply that freedom to the fringe elements and liberal elements in the city. They don't extend that consideration to the moderate or conservative denizens of that town. That, in my view, means they're missing the point of what freedom is all about.

Answer 4

"Catholic church desicration"

Can you fill me in on this one? Just use the "add details" feature.

Yes I do believe the East and West Coasts follow there own agendas that are at odds with the land lying in between them. I also see San Francisco as being an extremely far left area that isn't in line with mainstream America.

Answer 5

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Answer 6

San Francisco looks like the HQ for the left wing liberal loonies.

Answer 7

yeah they are an entity unto them sellf . Too bad the fire cant sweep through that areaand disperse those weirdos. I dont want anyone killed but that place is a cancer on this country and needs treatment.

Answer 8

are you looking for more people to support your ignorant views? i'm not one of them, sorry.