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When evaluating starters and their chances of winning the award, how much weight should be given to wins as compared to other categories?

2007-10-24 03:47:57 · 18 answers · asked by Craig S 7 in Sports Baseball

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Not nearly as heavy a statistic as ERA, Quality Starts, WHIP, and almost anything else. A great pitcher should not be penalized for the lack of offense behind him. If he allowed one run and the offense couldnt bat one in... he takes a loss. On the other hand - Some other guy could allow 7 runs - but since his offense pounded in 12... he gets the win. It's decieving. This is exactly why I think CC will get the Cy Young before Beckett (although Beckett will get MVP of the WS... he's awesome in October).

2007-10-24 06:05:39 · answer #1 · answered by Ann 4 · 2 0

I believe it is important but the most important catagory is ERA. My buddy and I argue about this all the time because I think you could be on the Yankees for instance and have an ERA in the 4's and still pull off a 20 game win season. Where as if your playing for the Devil Rays that wouldn't be possible.

ERA shows how effective you are as a pitcher at not letting the other guys round the bases. Of course wins should play some role in choosing a Cy Young winner but it shouldn't weigh in as such an important catagory as some believe it should.

2007-10-24 03:54:07 · answer #2 · answered by Aaron K 3 · 0 0

It depends on the pitcher, a closer it should not even matter, a starting pitcher should have a minimum amount of wins, he should be in the top 5-10 in the league in wins but you have to weigh heavily on his ERA as well, I think that is a better tale of the pitcher a lot of the time, as well as innings pitched. If a guy is 18-5 but has an ERA of 5+ and never makes it out of the 6th inning then he should not be in contention. I think all three of those stats really should weigh the heaviest for a starting pitcher. Strikeouts are flashy but like Crash Davis said, they are facist!

2007-10-24 03:55:47 · answer #3 · answered by bdough15 6 · 0 0

Hard to say and will always be open to debate. Why not place equal weightage on ERA, no. of wins, innings pitched etc. There could just be as good a pitcher but if he's playing for a poor team with no offense, a low ERA still won't get him enough wins to give him any chance of an award.

2007-10-24 04:32:42 · answer #4 · answered by Kutu 2 · 0 0

How humorous is it which you ask approximately Kevin Millwood, while he become surely a very stable pitcher while he become with the Atlanta Braves. He become between the pitchers who pushed the Braves to the international sequence in 1999. His stats that 12 months have been right here... IP: 228 W-L: 18-7 era: 2.sixty 8 SO: 205 WHIP: 0.996 to not point out he finished in third place for the national League CY youthful Award that 12 months. that's humorous merely how plenty gamers can substitute to the element the place human beings forget approximately approximately them altogether. surely, i don't be attentive to what the deal is with choosing who gets the MVP and CY youthful Awards. there have been many gamers over the years who i theory have been given robbed of that opprotunity. to not point out that those awards have been given to Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens way TOO in many circumstances! while it comes all the way down to it, I surely have got here across that the MLB provides those awards to who the followers want to make certain obtain the award. I consider you, it is going to likely be based soley upon wins, losses, and era, yet that for sure isn't the case in case you have Tim Lincecum triumphing the CY youthful Award while he merely had 15 wins final 12 months.

2016-11-09 08:54:29 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Winning is the bottom line because that is what you get paid to do. People look at sports too analytically, winning is the most important thing. Some pitchers have bad era's but play on good teams so they get a lot of wins where as some pitchers have excellent era's but play on bad team and they go .500 for the year. Well this is not the fault of the player, it is the fault of the team and "individual success has to revolve around team success." As far as evaluation I say wins first, era second, as far as strikeouts, they do not necessarily equate to effective pitching since an out is still an out. I like opponent batting average better then strikeouts.

2007-10-24 07:50:40 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

I think rather than how many wins the pitcher gets it should be wins the team gets while that pitcher is starting. So many times top pitchers keep their teams in the game by allowing one or two runs in 6-7 innings but get a no decision because their offense isn't working early in the game. The starter deserves credit for keeping his team in the game, but he won't get a decision for it.

2007-10-24 06:05:38 · answer #7 · answered by JimBo 5 · 0 0

I don't think wins shouldn't be the biggest part of it. Cause what if you're winning but your ERA is over 8.00. The only reason you're winning is cause you have some great hitters on your team. I think ERA and SO/BB ratio are more important. Wins can play a part in the standings but shouldn't be the main reason someone is chosen.

2007-10-24 03:52:39 · answer #8 · answered by chad f 3 · 0 0

For starters
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1) First eliminate everybody who has started 25 games or less
2) Next select pitchers whose win numbers are in the top 3
For eg: if the max no: of wins was 20 and the next highest was 18 and then 17 . select every pitcher with at least 17 wins
3) Arrange them on their ERA. The top guys get 5 pts, the next gets 3 and the rest 1 pt.
4) Arrange them in the order of wins. The top guys get 3 pts, the next gets 2 and the rest 1 pt.
5) Arrange them in the reverse order of their losses. The top guys get 3 pts, the next gets 2 and the rest 1 pt.
6) Arrange them in the order of no: of strikeouts. The top guys get 1.5 pts, the next gets 1 and the rest 0.5 pt.
6) If there is a tie, the innings pitched will decide the winner

2007-10-24 04:52:22 · answer #9 · answered by Existentialist_Guru 5 · 0 2

Wins are very important. At least as important as era and innings pitched and more important than strikeouts. Afterall, wins are the "bottom line" and for what the pitcher, Cy Young is known.

2007-10-24 04:50:56 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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