So your telling me that man and ape have a common ancester ?

Question

how, i mean what somewhere along the line they decided to split and man took this route and ape took the other route. I dont know it just does'nt make sense to me if thats the case why are apes treated as animals and humans are well humans. I just dont find that possible. Even today some of the smartest scientist are standing back and saying wait something is'nt right its not coming together.So please if you tihnk your smarter than these guys which im sure someone will have an answer enlighten me.

Answer 1

No, some of the smartest scientists are not saying that. There are some profoundly ignorant ones saying it. Mostly it is a group of religious people that want to teach the pseudoscience of creation and they shroud it in scientific but completely nonsensical logic. The only reason is because they can't teach religion in school. Now they want to camouflage it as science.

Denying obvious facts is going to destroy rational peoples faith in religion which would be a terrible thing. Anyone who thinks evolution is not a fact might as well be saying the Earth is flat. There is no question life has profoundly changed over the billions of years it has been evolving. That is the definition of evolution. The ridiculous micro versus macro evolution is also completely devoid of scientific logic. It has risen to the level of propaganda I am afraid to say.

Answer 2

Which scientists are saying that? Are you talking well-respected biologist types, or someone else? Evolution is very well-documented, and our close kinship with the other apes (we are also classified as great apes) has a heck of a lot of evidence, fossil record-wise, genetically, old-school taxonomically, and on and on. I'd like to know who you're talking about here.

I'm not sure why it's so surprising that we don't treat our cousins so well. There are still an embarrassingly large number of people in the world who still classify other peoples as animals. That's the common justification behind slavery, colonialism, and the horrible things done to mentally or physically disabled people. They're not _real_ people, they're animals, goes the logic. Even though chimps and bonobos share so much genetic information that there are plenty of people who think we ought to be pan sapiens, they look more different from us than, say, a black person does from a white. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who knows a bit of history that we'd be so awful to chimps and bonobos, let alone gorillas and other, more distant cousins.

Also, no one "decided" anything. If that was how evolution worked, then I'm going to "decide" to get rid of the appendix and wisdom teeth for my kids, 'cuz that sh!t sucks. No, what happened was something like one group lived and gathered more and more in the savanna due to population or ecological pressures, or both, and they gradually evolved to better survive in that environment. Eventually, after a couple million years, you end up with us. It was a happy accident, and if the forests weren't shrinking then, it might not have ever happened. There's no direction in evolution, no forethought, no plan. If there was, I wouldn't have to be making jokes about wisdom teeth and appendixes, because that's just poor planning.

Answer 3

Why do humans find the necessity to treat any animal the way they do? It personally disgusts me no matter what kind of creature people decide to test on. To answer your question driectly, yes, it is believed that we have a common ancestor. And in a certain northern European country who will go unnamed, the geographic population has been so separated for so long that there is now enough difference in genetic material to merit a new species classification. This is only not done because of the ramifications of what would happen in the world arena in this whole country was considered a 'subspecies'. Its the same principle in another context with apes.

Answer 4

Students are just becoming brave enough to question the Darwin theory. We see in history, those who opposed the theory were treated as uneducated, not understanding of higher learning, not worthy of joining the enlightened elite. Well, guess what? Students today are saying, this theory doesn't prove out. Different types of upright walking, tool making creatures existed at the same time, right along with the apes. At what point did some of them take a left turn and become human?
This unproven theory has been taught as fact for so many years, one is subject to immediate ridicule to even ask questions.
It should not be taught as fact, only as theory.

Answer 5

Eric C,

The temptation here is to blast your misconceptions but that would almost certainly be received with hostility. When one is made hostile by someone trying to explain away misconceptions, well, things get testy and lernin, he don’t be a happinin.

First of all name some reputable scientists who question that man and ape evolved from a common ancestor. You cannot give us one such name because any reputable scientist, not considered a quack, embraces Evolution Theory.

Recently, anthropologists discovered remains of Egyptopithicus; we think this little feller was a common ancestor to all extant primates. He lived about 25 million years ago, it appears he lived in a probable jungle we now call Egypt.

You guys would do better trying to disprove the existence of Elvis.

Obviously, humans are animals, always have been...always will be.

Answer 6

The environment doesn't cause the mutation. That is a common mistake many make. The change in the environment allows those with a beneficial mutation to thrive. Those that can't adapt die out.

Perhaps man and apes had many common ancestors. Who can tell for sure. And Ape are animals as are people. We just have an over inflated ego about ourselves. We don't even treat our own kind equally why would you expect us to treat other species better?

As to religion vs science, I'm a Catholic and I was a biology major for years. As you see the the variety and the way species have evolved you have too believe there was a guiding hand behind it all. So I believe in Evolution and I believe its part of God's plan. I also believe those that don't believe in Evolution are doing so from a lack of education.

Answer 7

Interesting idea, since in hominin history, there were actually many different "man-like" species living at the same time, meaning a humanlike being would not be so individual and apart from "animals." The accepted reason why there is only one human species is that we thrived in our environment, colonized and outsurvived many other species, due to our favorable adaptations. In conclusion, we are certainly different from the other apes and just because we share a common ancestor does not mean that we need to be very similar.

Answer 8

Humans are the ones decided to treat other animals differently. So obviously we'll treat our own better. Which isn't right; but there you go.

But, FYI- its not like it was a choice made consciously. It was DNA miscopying itself over many generations that spawned creatures that were progressively more different and occupied different niches or different areas that required different things. Our Chimp-like ancestors found themselves in a world with fewer and fewer trees- so those that could stand upright and see further away had an advantage on the plains.

Answer 9

I agree with BravoZulu. You have to understand that evolution doesn't work by conscious effort. We didn't have an ape ancestor that decided to split into two bands. What likely happened is that one group got isolated from the other and its environment changed and that group had to change with the environment. Using you example, perhaps our ancestors were forced into a more open environment where bipedalism was favored and chimps stayed (or moved into) in the forest and developed thier particular adaptations. Our lineage at some point developed greater intelligence probably to communicate and build tools. Other apes didn't evolve along this route and developed in other ways. They are superior in their niche as we are superior in ours.

Answer 10

I am not smarter than anyone, we are all important in some way but ape and man are related. Apes sould not be treated as animals. Scientist don't agree on much. Don't worry about it, it's just a thing.