Ladies, why do some of you respond with such shock that there are bitter guys in here?

Question

If you're not shocked, but have other comments, lay em down; but why are some women shocked?

Answer 1

I'm only shocked when comments such as "a woman's place is in the kitchen" are made...other than that, I have complete understanding if someone's emotions are running high while feeling unfairly treated, misunderstood or frustrated with certain double standards, especially if bad personal experiences (divorce, child custody, alimony etc) are involved. I'm not saying they are always right, but I can understand how one can have those feelings.

Answer 2

I guess I'm shocked because I see feminism as a great cause that has given women the chance to achieve great things, and yet many men, such as yourself, have responded to feminism with such venomous attacks on us.

We're not all "misled feminists", as you like to characterize us. Many of us want the opportunity to become whatever we have the ability to become.

Answer 3

It doesn't shock me at all. What does shock me is how persistent and determined they are at spreading their misery around, and, how totally justified they feel while doing it. I find it disturbing that they feel perfectly "o.k." with blaming the entire female gender for problems they've had with one or two specific people. It isn't the fact that they are bitter or angry that shocks me, it's the level of the anger and the way it is projected onto many people that don't deserve it, that shocks me.

Answer 4

there are bitter guys in here? no! im shocked!

so when you say bitter do you mean like grapefruit bitter or nail polish remover bitter? coz ill take grapefruit bitter over nail polish bitter anyday...

Answer 5

I suspect that the males doing the shocking are very young, and it is their m.o. to shock wherever they happen to be. Most mature males respect the equity ideals of feminism, and they also see how gender issues affect males in ways females can't based on their experience as males. To assert the latter is not anti-feminist, as most feminists favor equality between the sexes.

Answer 6

Not shocked....more like disappointed. I am not surprised at the attitudes some men have towards feminism, but I always hold out hope they'll eventually see what benefits it has to offer, for them as well as us. I guess I'm really just sad that some men are still so ignorant that they believe it's OK to oppress an entire gender.

Answer 7

I'm not shocked by bitterness because in many cases, I think it's justified. I am shocked by ignorance...by trolls who constantly ask about women's body parts and sexuality and, most disturbingly, about the validity of rape. Men who are genuninely upset about things such as child custody, controlling mothers and mothers-in-law, abuse accusations, and so on do not shock me; however, they have enlightened me. I had no idea that men were feeling as "dislocated" as they are, and, to a degree, I understand why they attribute this to feminism. When women talk about the hate being spewed toward them in this forum, I see it, but I also see the absolute vitriol and contempt that is dished out to men. I don't like either one. In fact, I dislike it so much, that I refuse to be associated with feminism any longer, as the ones doing it are the ones who most identify as feminists. So, for the people who thought they were getting women on-side to the cause, they got it backwards for me. Hate breeds hate, and I'm not going to be part of it. I do not hate men, and I don't want to see either sex suffer. Verbal, written abuse toward men should neither be tolerated or encouraged, yet this forum is rife with it. So, bottom line, I expected to encounter negative attitudes toward women, but I did not expect the hatred I see exhibited towards men. Thanks to the resident feminists--and I hope they're just extremists--I no longer claim what I used to believe was important. Absolutely not my expectation when I joined this forum.

Answer 8

i write articles for an online source and was getting the same hateful, nasty comments. the editor there said the same things people are saying here- they're just young guys with nothing to do.

well, i researched it and started going to the links they referenced.

i found out that there is a part of the fathers rights movement that is very very nasty. not only are they nasty, they are organized.

i am not saying that all FR groups are like this - many are very positive.

but, there are over 500 of these 'nasty' groups in the world. they are lobbying to change laws, they are writing for mainstream newspapers, they attacking women's services - esp. for DV and rape.

if you think they are not harmful...think again.

they are researchers, judges, and politicians. they are lawyers. they advertise "teach her a lesson."

they advocate joint custody. many of these guys are batterers. many women have lost custody or have to share custody with a batterer. it will only get worse.

i am not a fearmonger but i truly believe feminists must wake up to these men and stop considering them weirdo groups or young boys. these weirdo groups are organized and they mean business.

if you don't believe me, do your own research.

check out xyonline, the liz library (http://www.gate.net/~liz/fathers/fathers.htm), the mother's movement...

Answer 9

i've often heard from my male friends that sexism has died down, that most men are fine with equality of the genders, etc. but coming onto yahoo answers and witnessing the seething hatred for feminism expressed by so many men alarmed me. i actually thought better of men in general before! I still do, but i have to accept that as there will always be racism, there will always be sexism. maybe it all boils down to a certain bitterness, all prejudices i mean.

Answer 10

I got sunburnt yesterday so i'd probably say "I'm burnin i'm burnin i'm burnin too" :(