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That there is a difference between (1) being able to do everything a man can do; and (2) doing it as well as a man.

Can woman be fireman and other jobs based primarily on physical strength-- Absolutely. Are there woman who can do them better than me--Absolutely. However, can the strongest woman do the job as well as the strongest 10% of men--Absolutely not.

So that means elite combat and police units (where strength and speed is a major requirement) will always be strictly men, true?

2007-10-22 17:37:11 · 14 answers · asked by mcentee34 2 in Social Science Gender Studies

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Depends what type of units these are. Not all combat situations rely just on strength. Most weapons are long range nowadays and in things like thinking on your feet, intelligence, and teamwork women are equals so it doesn't come down to physicality.
What women are you talking about that are denying this physical fact? Most women as long as you admit what you did which is that there are definitely plenty of women stronger than a lot of men out there will give you that the absolute strongest of men compared to women are not as physically strong. Are you just needing your ego stroked or have little man syndrome or something? I don't really hear anyone argue this point because it defies physiology and anatomy.

2007-10-22 17:46:49 · answer #1 · answered by karoni_rain23 3 · 4 2

Many women are smart enough to know that....only a few want to "be like a man" in everything. It is a false message that they can be. And even though some can do a few thing like the men, usually the standards are "modified" to accommodate them...and they don't want to admit it.

And yes...it is only in the movies that there are "macho women" who are stronger than men. God just didn't plan it that way.

He made women to be a partner for the man....to work together, to support each other, each with different roles....and each good at some things the other isn't. It is a foolish person who ignores the wisdom of God Himself.
And the man is supposed to be there to protect her...and it is a foolish woman that ignores this. Sometimes you see men instinctively take on this role....like just recently in a school shooting when the young man fell over one of the girls to try to protect her.

2007-10-26 16:55:39 · answer #2 · answered by samantha 6 · 0 1

Why does everyone have a problem with this subject? Who cares who is better than who? Who cares if the winner has a dangler or not? Why is it a competition?
I am female. I used to be an electrician (typically male job, yes?) and worked for my father. He was taller than me, so did better on ladders etc, had more experience, and stronger than me. I am short, have much smaller hands for fiddly jobs and fit in smaller spaces. We never spent a single second of our 10 years working together competing about who was the better electrician, but we worked bloody well together because we each knew each other's strengths and weaknesses and used them to the benefit of us both.
I think if all the gender-obsessed people got over the whole issue and instead found a way to all work together in peace, the world would be a much happier place!

2007-10-22 18:08:16 · answer #3 · answered by lonecabbage 2 · 4 1

I actually did a report last year on gender conflict in the movie Courage Under Fire, and the role of women in the military. Nearly all of the source studies I looked at found that men outperformed women in most of the studied categories, due to more upper body strength and that men were generally faster. One requirement for basic training (as of the time of the report) is that every soldier must be able to pass a strength test (for example, to be able to transport artillery shells). Nearly half of women failed the tests.
In the paper, that reason, amongst others, was why I supported keeping women out of combat roles in the military, and limited to transports, pilots, etc.

2007-10-22 18:06:30 · answer #4 · answered by MooseBoys 6 · 2 2

I don't care if it's the year 2525 a woman can never do what is expected of a a man. For instance how can a woman teach a child something from the true perspective of a man, when she herself is not a man? I am not talking about coming close, I'm talking about the real deal here.
I may be mistaken on this fire fighting thing, but aren't the female firefighters accompanied by at least one to two males, so that the slack can be picked up to compensate for her weaknesses? It's just a thought. I mean she can't be expected to go into a burning building alone and also the men have back up to when needed; only I believe she would need it more. The police could do it the same way.
Yep you got me I'm admitting it. I'm admitting all of it, no take backs.

2007-10-22 18:08:34 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 5

Okay, okay, you got me, I admit it. I'm not strong and by no means fast. I am woman hear me snore....I mean roar. I agree the standard, whatever it is, should remain a standard straight across the board. Both men and women should meet the same requirement without exception. There will be a few amazing amazon types that will indeed meet these requirements and be successful, but the majority of us will not, cannot, and shall not. ;-)

2007-10-22 17:54:20 · answer #6 · answered by ursobustedmr 3 · 3 1

When we stop lying and pretending we'll be better off. Most women and many men are not strong enough to be firefighters. We shouldn't lower the standards for men or women in order not to hurt someone's feelings. I don't want a 100 pound, 5 foot tall man or woman trying to carry me out of a burning building. Let's keep realistic standards for all of our sakes.

2007-10-22 17:45:41 · answer #7 · answered by Jeff A 5 · 6 1

Actually, physical strength is no longer the most important requirement in fields such as combat, firefighting, law enforcement, construction and so on. Modern society is slightly more mechanized than it was a few generations ago and even men are no longer allowed to do labor in any way that may injure them. Also, a recent research project by the U.S. military found that women with proper training achieve all the same physical fitness standards as do men. Physical strength is no longer a determining factor in a man's worth, or a women's. We've moved on from that. About fifty years ago. Where you been?

2007-10-22 18:26:42 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 5

Heheh. I just responded to Object of Ire's question (which was in response to this one) thinking that she was being kinda sexist. Now I realize she was just responding to this question.

Sure, maybe men can do some things better than women, and maybe some women have a hard time admitting that. BUT, just as often, men have a hard time admitting that women are better at some things, especially when it's a field that is historically male dominated...not just cooking, cleaning, and raising kids.

For example, women are proving to be better managers in business than men are. Google "women make better leaders" or "women make better managers" and you'll get a number of articles that discuss several DIFFERENT studies on women being better leaders in business than men. Men hate this.

Speed and strength are cool, but I'll take my superior leadership abilities and communication skills any day.

2007-10-22 18:07:25 · answer #9 · answered by G 6 · 2 4

Why do you have so much disdain for strong and competent women??


It makes it sound as if you are unsure of yourself, that may not be true, but it seems glaringly so from the tone of your questions.

I love women and have a strong, independent wife who is my equal. Women can also do many things we can't and many better than we can. Why not appreciate that fact?

2007-10-23 05:19:37 · answer #10 · answered by rumbler_12 7 · 3 1

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