Exactly what is the Iraq War all about?

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Pfo said: The reasons for this are vast, but not any part of me believes it is intentional. If you have a house of people with AK47s, they'll call in air support and blow it up. Only later will they find out the bottom floor was a family of 5. They'll probably lump them with the insurgents when they publish a death toll. A sad state of affairs, but the alternative is to let them operate with impunity hiding amongst an innocent population. We cannot do that, it's become an us or them thing: people are going to have to die. If you had to choose to kill American soldiers or innocent Iraqis, what would you pick? I'd be inclined to spare the Americans, but I know my answer is not nice or preferred.

The difference between the US v Saddam and terrorists in general is that Saddam and terrorists deliberately attack the innocent, whereas in our case 99.999% of the time it is collateral damage.

PN: My firm negotiated the end to the Iraq Conflict in 1990-91. The Bush administration wanted . . .

to take Saddam out, because they felt they couldn't trust him. During the Reagan era, Saddam was given free access to acquire chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons. He never went to the full extent and our government did not trust him. What our nation did during the Reagan era was wrong and illegal. Something that Cheney tried to cover up. When we got Saddam to agree to many things like military inspections, terms of regional peace, oil, and trade this was ignored and turned down by the Bush administration in an effort to take Saddam out, even if it meant war and the intentional killing of many civilians.

There was no evidence of any of the above, yet the Reagan-Bush administration took the law into their own hands. No WMD, no evidence that Saddam had reconstituted his military programs, no violations of UN Resolutions and Bush Junior's administration invaded Iraq. An estimated 1.8 million people died (over 680,000 during Junior's term).
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Fraud, deceit, and intentionally using their constitutionally given powers to bring about a massive war and death to a nation, even against CIA Advice! Bush (father and son) and their administrations had committed intentional acts against our Constitution and nation and committed acts of high treason. Lies to the UN can be substantiated and viewed by all. What is tragic is the deaths to 1.8 million innocent Iraqis, especially since Saddam had disbanded his government and military!

This is what the Iraq War is all about and many good people like myself have no stomach to participate in fraud and intentional deceit!

During Saddam's term Iraq was at peace. We, our nation, have no right to judge the internal affairs of another nation. Our spies made false claims and this was know to the Bush administration, who accepted those lies as fact and truth.

I can not see how Congress lies dead and refuses to act! This is a very serious matter and our nation (Bush administration) is clearly. .

Fraud, deceit, and intentionally using their constitutionally given powers to bring about a massive war and death to a nation, even against CIA Advice! Bush (father and son) and their administrations had committed intentional acts against our Constitution and nation and committed acts of high treason. Lies to the UN can be substantiated and viewed by all. What is tragic is the deaths to 1.8 million innocent Iraqis, especially since Saddam had disbanded his government and military!

This is what the Iraq War is all about and many good people like myself have no stomach to participate in fraud and intentional deceit!

During Saddam's term Iraq was at peace. We, our nation, have no right to judge the internal affairs of another nation. Our spies made false claims and this was know to the Bush administration, who accepted those lies as fact and truth.

I can not see how Congress lies dead and refuses to act! This is a very serious matter and our nation (Bush administration) is clearly
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at fault here!

Then too in primitive nation's there exist no democracy or police. So, a strong man is needed to uphold the law. People in Iraq come and go as they please and there is no gun registration like we have in our nation.

Our spies (Ahmad Chalabi as an example) lied and the Bush administration fully knew this!

I am hoping for reform and that legal action will be taken against the Bush administration, so our nation can heal and get back to where we were once again.

The future is rosy with a lot of good things in store for America, yet what happens in the future I am not able to say as I do not have access to top levels of government.

Max
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Ps: What the Iraq War is all about, in my eyes (my opinion), is intentional US fraud and lies. Something that many of us are ashamed of!

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Answer 1

Here you go if you really want to know:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec02/joint_resolution_10-11-02.html

Answer 2

Was 9/11 really a conspiracy theory? Many I speak to believe so, I can't accept that so many innocent people would be killed under false pretences from the US government. Junior Bush has been pushed by his dad, Clinton and recent war mongers, yes Saddam killed loads of innocent people, 9/11 was the US's green light to start the war in Iraq and secure the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ which would come from it, but also, don't forget the Iraq people who don't wish to have a dictator, poor buggers have been through hell already, peace will come one day, I can feel it, it just takes time, cheers.

Answer 3

You seem to forget that the US and allies invaded Iraq and concentrate on the resistance to the continued occupation.

The war fundamentally is about control over energy resources for geopolitical reasons: to control these resources is far more more important to US planners than the lives of ordinary Iraqis (they have never had much concern about them before), or the the lives of US soldiers and the higher risk caused by the invasion acting as a recruiting Sergeant to Islamic fundamentalists. The security services told them that this was likely to happen before the invasion but was ignored,as they have other priorities.

US forces have killed 67 civilians this month alone,including 19 children this month, an underestimate very likely

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/recent/

The US should leave as should our forces (the Brits). Let the Iraqis decide their own fate. The US does not rule the world.

Answer 4

I was shocked to see my quote in the body of this question!

I must say, I am not military, I do not serve, have not been there, and the above is my understanding of the situation.

What the war has become about, IMO is just to show who can hold out the longest now.

Another reason might be to bring democratic reform to the Middle East. Show them by example what America stands for and what real freedom is. I do hope in my lifetime that they see it.

Keep in mind: the insurgency can cause violence all they want, but they'll never win unless they adopt conventional means. No insurgency has ever won by staying insurgent and using guerrilla tactics, none of them can. They have to make a push, and when they do, provided we're still there, they will fail.

Answer 5

First i do no longer think of it became into compleatly approximately Oil- genuine any factor we do interior the middle east is approximately oil it fairly is why we glance any incorrect way with reference to Saudi Arabia's human rights recod yet this became right into a case of attempting to regulate the Arab physique of recommendations. There different places shall we've orginised a coup in to getthe oil- even however this became into basd on the assumption you ought to impose democrasy on a Mideastern u . s . interior an analogous way it became into imposed on Japan or Germany after international conflict II. So the thought to the Bush adminstration is basicly create a central authority that could combat the terrorist danger for us. Iraq became into chosen becuse Bush theory he ought to discover a reason to invade as we had basicly been at conflict with them for the reason that 1991.

Answer 6

Sounds like you have a pretty good idea without my input but I do know we are there now for the training of their army and police as well as helping to protect the innocent Iraqi people from the insurgents.

Answer 7

I'm not sure there are really any national security issues in any part of Iraq other than the oil fields. Why not withdraw to the oil fields and keep pumping oil, and pay the Iraqi's retail for it? That wouldn't really be stealing, not exactly......

Answer 8

Oil and the military industrial complex making a profit from the Iraqi peoples suffering.

Answer 9

Petro-dollar hegemony.