Christian Democrats -- What Would You Say About This . . . .. .. .?

Question

And please please read the question carefully and answer appropriately . Thank you .

Why is it that the Bible and Pastors teach that abortion is wrong , but some of you think it's right ? - This confounds me . Do you honestly think that God will return and approve of such acts ?
Does it trouble you to see God removed from many sectors of our society ? Simple stuff too . Nativity Scenes , Christmas plays in school.. . or any reference to Christmas for that matter .
Have ya ever asked yourself just how WAS it ok for about 200 years and all of a sudden , it's not ?
Do you think that when Jesus returns he would approve of the fact that His Father was removed from our schools and our society ?

And if you think I'm judging , guess again . I am a sinner and so are you . I'm not 'above' you in any way . But it troubles me to see what appears to be a decision to follow 'Party Ideology' and not God's Ideology . And if you're really a Christian , then you know I have the right to ask .

One More Q -- Has it ever occured to you that members of the Democratic Party are responsible for supporting the removal of God ?
And have you ever sat down and asked yourself. . . "Why hasn't the Republican Party supported the removal of God "?

Mr. Campbell's Alphabet Soup -- I submit that it appears that you want to distance yourself from such behaviors , yet cast your vote for the success of the same ideologies that you disagree with . A clear conflict .

Global Warming - Perhaps you'd like to direct me and the rest of us to the part in the Bible where God or Jesus says that the rules should be changed periodically to suit the desires of the people . I just can't wait to 'learn' that .

Answer 1

I'm Catholic and I teach 9th grade Sunday School. My Religious Education Director (a GREAT lady) had a Kerry bumper sticker on her car this past election. I was absolutely dumbstruck. I have not gotten over the shock. He is FOR everything we as Catholics are AGAINST. Your question Earnest has made me want to ask her WHY...

I hear from liberals all the time - this is the 21st Century...start living in the now and not the past. They mean morals. When God changes his Commandments I'll consider it but until then...I choose the follow the 10 He gave me.

Answer 2

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Answer 3

I think that in the South there are many Christians who are Democrats. They tend to be opposed to abortion and gay marriage and support the 2nd amendment.

The radical left knows this and so the South is the object of their scorn.

Recall Bill and Hillary visiting predominantly black churches in the South? I think Democrats have played the race card very well with Southern Christians.

But I think that we saw the South turn red in the last 2 elections and I don't think that will change the next time around, unless Giuliani is the Republican choice, and then I don't know what will happen.

Answer 4

Earnest, they will always rely upon their belief that a baby is not a baby until it draws its first breath and that easily erases their responsibilities toward the unborn.

Otherwise, I know it can't happen what with all the calls for no religion at all, but wouldn't it be nice if Christianity was made the Official Religion?

While growing up, I certainly thought that it was - without question.

I wish we could get our representatives to re-think what is happening in our country today with that All-American, Apple Pie sense of tradition in mind. There is simply nothing wrong with following in the footsteps of what had always been traditional America, nostalgia, holidays and wholesomeness.

If we continue like this, it won't be long before December 25th is just another work day.

Answer 5

Christian democrats do not argue that aboftion is good or right. They argue that it is a matter of personal choice - as is thier choice of religon. The bible teaches that honoring your parents is right and eating shellfish is wrong - but we do not enforce it with law.
How an argument as simple as this can confound you is very troubling.
It does not trouble me for religon to be in churches and education to be in schools. I do not believe it was ok for 200 years.

All this boils down to something simple- religon is a choice in this country. That makes it something personal - not the realm of the government. That was a priority for the founding fathers (after all they put it in the FIRST amendment). Why do you have a problem with that?

Answer 6

I am not a democrat but I am a Christian. One thing I do know is that throughout my life I have been hurt by people who have called themselves Christian.

Hitler said that he was killing all the Jews in the name of Christ.

Anyone can call themselves anything but the end result for us is how do they live?

I am NOT saying these people are not truly born again, I cannot say this because only God knows our hearts. I am saying that I can call myself anything but that doesn't actually make me that thing.

I do also know my God. He does not force us to choose Him and He lovingly walks us through our lives 1 day at a time, encouraging our growth but not forcing it. This is grace! He will work with me while I sit here smoking to give me the desire to quit but He has not 'quit' me yet. I have to do the work to change.

If these people are truly Christians, then God is the One who will have to work with them to change their views/beliefs. They will be held accountable same as you and me.

I do also know that God told me in His word that we can remind them that they will one day stand before Him in a loving manner. God is love and if we are to emulate Him, that must be the way to go. We cannot change them, either.

Pointing out that the choices go against God' Word is important, too, as many people may be new starting out with Him and don't really know the Word as you and I might.

Answer 7

Abortion is not a religious issue, it is a political issue dressed up to look like a religious issue. There is no mention of abortion in the Bible, as far as I know. Before the election of 1980, the great majority of pro-life activism was by Catholics. For the 1980 election, corrupt fundamentalist Christian leaders made the artificial and arbitrary decision that life begin when the sperm hits the egg.

The real agenda of the GOP had nothing to do with banning abortion, only to exploit the abortion issue as a 'wedge' issue. Seven justices of the Supreme Court, six of the nine current members, were appointed by Reagan or the two Bushes, and they have not all been, as promised, pro-life. Reagan never carried through on his promise to propose a constitutional amendment declaring the pre-born 'human beings'.

As a wedge issue, abortion is dead. It's played out. This is why it's not being hyped in this election. In 25 years the Republican position went from 'We must ban all abortions' to 'We need to kick it back for the states to decide' to 'Well personally I'm pro-life but I don't think it's something government should decide.'

Why do you think the fine, upstanding Christian pro-life activists, fighters for life and God's law, are changing their position? Because it's clearer with every election that a goodly majority of Americans, even of Republicans, are not 100% pro-life. The great majority of us are somewhere in the middle and want a policy based on pragmatism and practicality rather than strict, unyielding dogma.

Most Christians, regardless of party, are not dogmatic. Don't you think thats a good thing?

Answer 8

Earnest...you are fighting a losing battle with them. You're trying to overcome political correctness. Absolute freedoms can NOT last forever...due to the fact that more who are free will use those freedoms to squash YOUR'S and MINE. But all LOVE to spend that 'In God We Trust' Money...don't they??

To all who have said that abortion is not EXPLICITLY prohibited in the Bible....GUESS WHAT....AGAIN YOU ARE WRONG....

Thou Shalt Not Kill!!!

Whoops...there you people go again...re-arranging the religions to your whims.

Answer 9

Men that chose the path for our government deliberately seperated church and state. Everything else is just fluff, smoke, and mirrors. Europe waged with war for 300 years from religion, and, Jefferson, Madison, et al deliberately decided to not make the same mistake for America.

I loathe abortion, but, it is the law, and, my friend, we are a nation of laws...

Answer 10

The abortion argument started by right wing preachers screaming on the pulpit to cover up for the skeletons in their closets.

I have no problem with nativity scenes in schools. Reminds me of the old days. Its only once a year so why not. The problem of removal of religous reference stems mainly from a few mean-spirited religous types who you may not agree with, and thus God is removed as a "solution" to the problem.

Its another "conservative" wedge issue in the United States. "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain". The flip side of "liberal" protesting.

I find opposition to abortion to run contrary to the conservative culture of red meat, death penalities and "Its my body I'll do what I want" BUT that doesnt apply to everyone.
(I do agree with libertarian conservatives basically)

It is NOT that "liberal"=pro abortion but rather anti-prohiobition and abortion occurs NOT by liberal rhetoric but by today's existing technology.

If men could get pregnant it would be a non-issue. I think.