Why do people get upset when a Toddler dies, when we have what 1000 or more abortions a day?

Question

Why care about kid x that is displaced when 1,000 died already isn't just a mathimatical irrelevence that we have 12 amber alerts in a year vs. what 100,000's die in the womb?

What is wrong with this country.?

Answer 1

If there is a mind and the holder of the mind is killed there is something to be upset about.

If there is no place for a mind, no brain developed yet, or brain long destroyed, then it is meat, medical waste, protoplasm etc and can be treated accordingly.

It is entirely possible to have a lot of working organs with no mind involved. Even many late term abortions are because while everything else develops, a brain does not. These acephalic monsters look like babies, cry and everything but "live" weeks at most.

When the Mind has almost arrived and not quite left you have a very hard situation indeed, and one best left to those most affected, but this is indeed and fortunately the rare case,

Adults like Terri Scheivo, and Karen Quinlin, the two most famous cases could "live" for years without a working brain, but never be alive after their brains were destroyed.

If the Churches believed any of the "life before birth" rhetoric, the graveyards would be filled with miscarriages, and even babies, as most did not see their fifth year, and should be the vast majority, and they are not even the most common.

The deliberate Murder of folk with working minds and brains as a policy to save money, such as a hospital killing quadriplegics who cannot pay their bill (as Bush made legal in Texas) is actually despicable, but the Right Wing is fine with that!

Answer 2

I think this shows how people really think about abortion.

I think most people would reasonably say that a 9-month fetus, a baby ready to be born and viable outside the womb, is a -person-. Definitely a toddler is a person. But the same reasonably people would say that a fertilized egg, a single cell, is NOT a person. For many years the question was: At what point between these two extremes do we consider that life begins? Where does a developing embryo becomes a -person-.

Christians have just -decided- that life begins when the sperm hits the egg. But that is someone's deliberate decision, it's not biblical or even really part of religious doctrine. The decision is artificial and arbitrary, it's really more political than doctrinal.

The fact that people don't care about thousands of early-term abortions every year just goes to show that people DON'T believe these little lumps of cells to be PEOPLE, or abortion to be murder.

Answer 3

The reason people are upset over a dead toddler is because we all define born and in-the-womb babies differently. No one disputes that a toddler or infant is a true child, but there's debate about where life really starts - in the womb or out. That's why we have an abortion dispute in the first place.

Answer 4

I'll start with the last part - the two party system is what's wrong with this country. It creates only stalemate, waste, and delineation, and feeds the media whatever it wants us to hear, and how we "need" to hear it.

Write in Stephen Colbert for your presidential primary, and send a message to the two parties that we're DONE with them.

So, that takes care of the media part - the personal part is that we all care more about someone we know, rather than someone we've heard of. Otherwise, we'd constantly be sad about breathing and thereby killing billions of microorganisms, too.

Answer 5

Don't downplay the fact of how many children are displaced and or abducted, or is this your intent? How many families are hurt/destroyed because of child displacement/abduction? You make it sound like it's o.k. that those chldren, who are displaced/ abducted is acceptable no matter how few or how many. One child is one too many.
By the way, the average statistical values for abortion are about 5,000 per day. Again, one unborn child taken for the sake of convenience is one too many. Amazing though isn't it?, the "freeist" nation on the face of the earth and we "choose" to murder our own unborn children--our next generation. That's why my vote is going to John McCain as he wants to overturn roe v wade and make abortion illegal. It's about time Americans step up and take a stand for our chldren, and future generations of our children. One child is one too many.

leonard s, and mr know it all, and all you other "pro-choiceers: remember, you at one time were also a "target" for the "right to choose" crowd. If it wouldn't have been for some Christian standing up for you, your post on here wouldn't have been missed.
samantha s: one child is one too many, regardless of the circumstances, by the way--put some clothes on, under-age children are on YA

Answer 6

nothing wrong with country. freedom lives.to answer your question a toddler is a human being,the unborn are not.if some thing dies in the womb its not nor ever has been a human being.

this question all revolves around what you believe not fact so really is unanswerable

Answer 7

I must say I do not get upset when a toddler dies. Usually in those cases, it is the parent's irresponsibility or stupidity that leads to a death and I feel no remorse for stupid parents. Now as far as the abortion thing goes, what business is it of yours what I or my wife/girlfriend/girl I slept with last night, decide to do with a potential offspring? What is the effect on your life?

In actuality, allowing these people to get abortions saves this country untold millions of dollars every year in what we'd be paying for these kids health care and what we'd be paying their parents in welfare checks. If you want to look at the economics of it, abortion does nothing but help this country.

Not to mention, do you honestly think that making abortion illegal will stop it? Reference...War on Drugs! You don't think they go back to the old practices of abortion before it was legal? Do you think that is the best idea, having women give themselves abortions because our country is too wrapped up in some disgusting attempt at being self-righteous and forcing others to believe what some well-funded, yet absurd group of people like the "Christian Right" think? What about the mother in that case, does she deserve to feel like that and to go through that kind of personal torture?

And don't bring your "don't have sex if you don't want a baby" nonsense. Everyone is having sex, whether right or wrong (which by the way is the same its always been) and there's nothing you moral police can do about it. If you don't want to have sex, then that's great, but don't try to tell me what to do with my body and don't try to tell me that a child feels pain in the first trimester or yada ya. The child is a child once released from the mothers womb. Before that, the child is a tumor in the mother's body and if she wants it cut out then by all means she should have that ability.

Answer 8

What is wrong with this country is that people in this country are afraid to be honest about sex and human sexual nature and neglects to teach responsible and thorough sex education, including the use of birth control...which also is not very affordable to those who honestly need it the most.

Answer 9

Abortion is not "killing a humanbeing." The belief tha it is is a religious one--and not even Chrstian. There is nothing in the Bible or Christian tradition to support that belief. It is an invention of the religious right, nothing more.

What's wrong with this country is these narrow-minded fake Christians on the right trying to ram their beliefs down everybody else's throats. This is a free country and their attitude is unAmerican as well as having nothing to do with Christianity.

Answer 10

why can't you people differentiate between a 'potential' human being and an actual human being. i think if you could just understand this difference, you would be less frustrated with the freedoms we enjoy in this country. i suggest a fetal development class and a lesson on evolution...