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I get pulled over and im thinking to myself crud. I get ticketed for going 39 in a 25 zone. The road was pretty dark, and i did not see any speed signs telling me the speed limit. There may have been but it was not obvious. The road linear to the road i was on was previously 30 and when i went onto the road where i had recieved a ticket, i had to accelerate uphill, and then it changes to a down hill. When i was going downhill, i get ticketed for going 39 by a cop with a fixed (nonmoving) radar gun. I do not frequent the road, but i do admit that i was going 39mph, but i was unaware of the speed on the road because i do not drive there alot. Also the hill has a really wide 2 lane road. If i go to court ad present my case do you guys think i can fight my way out of it? I have some ideas of what i can use and say, illigal speedtrap, engineering speed survey of road..

And if i stil lose after i plead for leneancy, Is traffic schol still a option?

I'm 18-my first driving ticket
TY

2007-10-20 08:01:37 · 8 answers · asked by corporalb 3 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

Arg, not the welcoming answers i planned on receiving, but also with the case, can i ask for the cop to present me with a engineering road survey of the road, and contest the legerity of the ticket and say that it was as a matter of fact a speed trap which is illigal?


ha! if you guys have any tips u have tried before in court to get out, or you think it will work, please leave a note, as i said i have a arsenal of tricky stuff ima try. If it works ill most deffinately repost what i did to get the ticket dismissed. You people have little faith in the power of words. Hopefully i can prove you guys wrong. thanks for the insightful insight though!

2007-10-20 08:28:47 · update #1

8 answers

what made it an illegal speedtrap? were all the cops lights off? maybe it was just a regular speed trap?
14 mph over in a 25mph zone is a good ammount over, whether or not you were going down a hill or not. if i were you you i wouldn't try to put the blame on anyone/thing else. it'd be your word against the law's and 9 chances out of 10 the law wins. own up to what happened, say you made a mistake and offer to take traffic school in exchage of not giving you a point. more than likely you'll still have to pay for the ticket/courtcost, but if you get out of paying the ticket fine more than likely you're still going to have to pay court cost, which for around where i live court costs are generally like $20.
i got a ticket one time and hired a lawyer to take care of it for me (they have lawyers that specialize in these kinds of cases). i didn't have to go to court she did everything i didn't get a point, it didn't go on my record, and i didn't have to pay the ticket or court cost ( i did pay the lawyer though). they changed the reason for getting pulled over to something like failed equipment. judges know that kind of plea means, but they see your efforts and level of care and concern over the situation and let your lawyer go that route. that's your best bet that i know of "fighting" it. i wouldn't play all innocent though. that kind of looks tacky and immature... especially over a speeding ticket. it's like not fessing up to stealing a pack of gum from a drugstore when you're 5 years old. (not trying to be mean, just realistic, sorry if you take it that way)
oh, i don't know if it's asked where you live or not, but here they ask us to sign the ticket before the cop gives it to us. and if you do that, basically you're admitting to the charges. if you're ever in anything bigger with hopes of getting out, don't sign anything.
with your extra comments you added you sound like my younger brother. your words are just going to annoy the judge and get you exactly opposite of what you're wanting and no cop is going to do that for you. it's not like going to court over a ticket is a trial. it takes 5 min tops, you're in -- you're out. don't dig the hole bigger than what it is.

2007-10-20 08:30:17 · answer #1 · answered by arctic_rash 3 · 0 0

You probably not beat the ticket.
1. The previous road speed limit was 30 and if you didn't see a new sign what would prompt you to think the limit was raised.
2. Going down hill adds speed but brakes slow you down you could have used them. In my area there are two hills that if you use the speed control at the limit then crest the hill you will be at least 5+ the limit, guess where the cops radar.
the best that you may get is no points but you can bet the court will get their fine and costs.
good luck

2007-10-20 08:10:26 · answer #2 · answered by fstopf4 4 · 0 0

i'm constructive that the court docket will weigh each and every of the aspects which you have reported approximately your self. You sound like a constructive guy or woman with a good head on your shoulders. regardless of the undeniable fact that, your character performs no section in no remember if or no longer you deserve a cost tag. The court docket could spare you the fee of the fee tag, reckoning on how nicely you argue your case, yet you will nonetheless owe the court docket for 'court docket costs'. If I have been you, i could in all probability purely pay the fee tag and then seem right into a protective using direction. you additionally can inquire some diversion application on your section. in case you attend a classification, including protective using, you've the factors which you receive from a site visitors fee tag taken off of your license. The factors would be bumped off continuously, as long as you guard a clean using record for a volume of time reported by making use of your community statutes. good success!

2016-10-07 07:11:06 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Slim and none. The judge has heard it all before.

Re" traffic school. In Pennsylvania, you can go ONCE and it lowers the points against you by one. Discuss it with the court.
Tha one point could make the difference with a suspended license if you get another ticket. in PA, 6 points gets a suspenstion. A stop sign violation is 3 points.
Get two, you're suspended.
I hope this is your last traffic ticket.

2007-10-20 08:07:42 · answer #4 · answered by TedEx 7 · 0 0

ZERO chance on that argument. speeding violations require neither intent nor knowledge. that argument would be entirely a waste of time

your best chance is to try to resolve the ticket PRIOR to your court date. as your first violation, you might go see the prosecutor in person, explain your case, and ask if you can get it reduced, or possibly pay it without it going on your record.

you might try this. you can't lose out if you do. but going to court with that argument is pointless, i fear

followup:

in most states, the ONLY illegal speedtrap is if it is found the governmental agency the officer works for (say, the city he works for, if he is a city cop), gets a high percentage of their revenue from speeding tickets, again, in most states, cops do NOT have to have lights on, can hide behind any bushes, or do anything else so that you do not see them, but they can see you.

if you count on your wit to try to trick a judge, or try to get engineering surveys to show the cop was hiding & therefore was cheating, you are likely to find your fine increased. i have seen speeding fines TRIPLED by a judge that took a dislike to someone.

but this is, after all, your problem, not mine, so try if you wish. but you asked for answers, and mine is that you probably better try something BEFORE you see a judge

2007-10-20 08:06:20 · answer #5 · answered by disgruntleddog 4 · 0 0

You are not going to beat that ticket. You already admitted to speeding on the 30mph road and the 25mph road. It is your duty to pay attention and know the speed limit on the road upon which you are traveling.

2007-10-20 08:05:29 · answer #6 · answered by Sordenhiemer 7 · 0 0

Sounds to me like you're bang to rights. Ignorance is no excuse. If you didn't know the speed limit, then you should have stayed doing 30. If you didn't see any change in the speed limit, you shouldn't have changed from doing it.

Nope, a fine is coming your way I'm afraid my friend.

2007-10-20 08:04:17 · answer #7 · answered by DMsView 6 · 0 0

Sure you can get out of that charge. You will have to go to court. If his *** doesn't show, the charge will be dropped.

2007-10-20 08:05:59 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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