I was at a bar enjoying happy hour with some friends. I had a bouncer approach me and tell me, "sorry, but... we have a policy against wearing plain white t shirts... please but your coat on or you'll have to leave. I thought he was joking but he wasn't. It was hot in the bar and I didn't want to put my coat on and look like an idiot. I ended up putting on a friends vest to avoid a scene. Could he have phsycally carried me out of the bar for wearing a white T??
2007-10-20 04:35:16 · 30 answers · asked by Matt S 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
He is working on behalf of the owners who have the absolute right to refuse to serve you and remove you from their premises. The bouncer can remove you by reasonable force if you refuse to leave but he can't really harm you in anyway. Well at least he can't leave any visible marks or harm you in front of any whitnesses. Pushing you out or grabbing you and pulling you are reasonable force. Sad but true...you are in a public place but drinking under private rules.
2007-10-20 04:41:07 · answer #1 · answered by xexyuk 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I work at a bar in Richmond, Va as a bouncer. In richmond the "anti" white t-shirt is to discourage gang activity as we have several "gangs" here that wear long plain white t's and baggy blue-jeans as a gang colors. And yes the owner can set there own rules and you as a customer have to abide by them. If you refuse to leave or comply after being asked by staff to do so; you can be physically removed. There is legal precidence for this and the police dept ( at least here ) are very business friendly and will along with the city magistrate back you as the bar employee 100% of the time as long as you don't go beyond what is resonable to remove the person from the premises. If you act in a violent manner or threaten a staff member you will be in the wrong every time and spend at least the night maybe longer in lock-up with trespassing/assault charges you will have to answer for later.
2007-10-22 21:40:43 · answer #2 · answered by eric h 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Any private establishment, including that particular bar has the right to refuse service to customers, which could be a result of a violation of their dress code,, I was once told that i would not be served until I removed a baseball cap i was wearing..Sounds like the bouncer was polite and was well within his rights to ask you to cover up the white t-shirt, although I can't figure out the reason for it...Did he explain why they had that particular dress code? And yes, if you had gotten beligerent or combative he could have physically carried you out of the bar..
2007-10-20 04:41:26 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, If you were resisting or didn't want to leave after he told more than once he can depending on what the dresscode is. The bouncers really make the rules and if thats what they say, and you dont think that is correct, call and ask the owner or someone of management. The guy could have just been trying to flex his power.
2007-10-20 04:40:21 · answer #4 · answered by bearcher 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
A bouncer is required by the owner of the establishment to enforce whatever rules they have...even if they are as dumb as this one. The rule probably goes for women more than men because we all know how white t shirts are when they get wet.
But because they have to enforce this rule on women, in order to avoid a law suit, they enforce it on everyone...you did the right thing by covering it up...
2007-10-20 04:40:55 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yeah, some bars have their own rules and so do some clubs. The bouncers do what ever they want. It is their job to beat people up. In your case you white t-shirt was probably banned from the bar because the owner wanted to keep the bar dressy.
2007-10-20 04:38:41 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
no count if that's a woman, perhaps that's a terror that they are going to all of sudden have a moist tee shirt contest on their palms? Edited: ok. The posts approximately gang-appropriate clothing makes greater sense. nevertheless, if I have been a woman, i does no longer flow right into a bar with a ordinary white tee shirt for concern a guy might purposefully splash me with something to sneak a peek. (I positioned on a bra besides, so :p!)
2016-10-13 08:03:25 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Bouncers/security guards are only allowed to use force if necessary. He could have asked you to leave and the bartender could have refused to serve you, but as for actually picking you up and carrying you out, I don't think that would have been warranted. However, it's a tricky situation - what's considered necessary for one person may not be necessary for another.
2007-10-20 05:00:11 · answer #8 · answered by happiestgirl0825 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They have a right to enforce whatever dress code they want. It's a private business. If you don't like it, don't go. And never argue with a bouncer. Either do what they ask or leave. It's an argument you will lose every time.
2007-10-20 04:38:11 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 0⤋
That's a tough one. I think once you enter the bar, you have to abide by all it's policies in order to stay. However, because you were not causing a disturbance, I don't think he could have put his hands on you. Also, plenty of witnesses if he had hurt you for no reason.
2007-10-20 04:41:56 · answer #10 · answered by pixie22406 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋