SCHIP compromise continues in Congress. Is the president really mentally deficient?

Question

On Wednesday, President Bush was asked why he vetoed the CHIP legislation that would provide health care to almost ten million children. His response: "to ensure that I am relevant".
It is amazing that he thinks his relevancy is more important than health care for ten million children.
The Congress already has 69 votes in the Senate, more than enough to pass the bill without the President, and the House of Representatives came within 13 votes of overriding his veto Thursday.
Now the President is saying "Why don't we sit down and compromise on CHIP?" How in the world does he think Congress got to where it did? How did it get 69 senators to support this legislation? Compromise.
The bill started with a cost of $70 billion, then went to $50 billion and finally compromised at $35 billion. For the President to come now and say, "Let's compromise," is completely disingenuous. Saving children should be more important to the President than saving face.
Here is the irony of the President's veto: This program was created by Orrin Hatch, a conservative Republican, and Ted Kennedy 10 years ago. Why? Because Orrin Hatch had two families come to him -- both families were working. They didn't qualify for Medicaid. They couldn't buy insurance. They didn't have the money. So in the finest example of bipartisan cooperation, conservative Orrin Hatch and liberal Ted Kennedy sat down and created one of our nation's most successful health care programs.
Now George Bush vetoed this bill simply to remain relevant. Ten million children are not irrelevant.

Answer 1

Sorry, Marky, but you're not very bright.

"Since when does a family making $60k need help with their health insurance?" Two parents each making $30 K and have 4 kids in day care, and one of them has a diesease like Lukemia. That's when family making $60K needs help with health insurance

"Why does this new plan insure "children" up to age 25?"

Why 25? Because then these families can send their kids to college. Unless you're Doogie Howser, You don't finish college by age 18. Things like Menigitis happen when living in places like dorms. College kids are poor, and at least if they have some coverage they won't die or put off going to the doctor.

"Every single one of the poster kids the Lib's trotted out are CURRENTLY COVERED UNDER THEIR RESPECTIVE STATES' PLANS NOW!!"

So? I suppose you know each of those families personally and know exactly what they're going through.

"And don't come back to me with, "well, what if they don't qualify for insurance"?"

What can't we? WHAT IF THEY DON'T?

"Every state has a mandated plan, and MUST provide coverage to ANYONE who wants it. Look it up."

That is a bold faced LIE, and you know it. There are lots of ANYONES in my state who want health insurance, but there are exemptions to it. If you're a single mom is about the only way you qualify because of morons like you stomping your feet in the state legislature. Forget it if you're a single dad working at McDonalds. You may WANT it, but you won't get it.

"Not only that, but if ANY emergency situation, hospitals have to treat life threatening issues, regardless of whether the patient is insured or not."

Then the tax payer has to pay for that, and it's far more expensive than if they had gone to Urgent Care for example because they had no insurance.

"So, the President wants to compromise and get something worked out?"

He wants to work on a compromise now because he's taking heat over this. The only thing that is going to save his butt is if another Republican is elected to the Presidency. He's doing a good job of even screwing that up with his comments about this situation.

"Why do you have a problem with that, other than your usual BDS?"

I had a problem with your, let me put this frankly, uneducated, unthought out answer. I think you need to go with the Tin Man and Scarecrow to OZ and find a heart and brain. Health Insurance might help with the transplant.

Answer 2

It serves 2 purposes. First, it exhibits the yank those that Congress is attempting to do issues interior the superb interest of the rustic, and that the President is the reason those issues don't get performed. This facilitates people tp be greater knowledgeable while balloting. 2nd, Congress does have the means to override a President's veto, so a veto isn't an computerized failure.

Answer 3

Much more to the issue than one statement. Lost in this grandstanding by Congress is the children. If the poorest of the children were in fact the primary concern for the existing program the House would ensure each member went to his or her district and identify then enroll every poor child that isn't covered. That is one-third of the poorest children in this country! When they have been identified and enrolled we should then look into increasing the number who are eligible. Anything more than this is just and US AND THEM by the congress.

Answer 4

The relevency is that too many adults up to the age of 25 would getting these funds, and making up to $83,000 a year!
Have you read the proposal for expanding the SCHIP program already in place? The program in place is already being taken advantage of with children not the main target of the funding. In a few states it is adults taking money away from children!
Read the SCHIP as it now stands and the proposal to get a little more insight.
As a nurse, I can tell you sick children are NEVER turned away from the medical care they need. If it is not affordable the hospitals will also provide the medication for them to take home.

Answer 5

Bush sounds unstable if not deficient. He's fully aware the bill he vetoed was a result of compromise. He believes the public is ignorant and partisan and will take his misstatements at face value.

As bad as this is, I'd rather have him get a sense of relevancy from pushing Congress around than from bombing Iran.

Answer 6

When I was growing up, the county nurse and doctor came around to the elementary schools and gave us our vaccinations. We didn't go to the doctor every time we sneezed or got a rash like parents do today. Going to the doctor was a rare event. Recently, a young mother I work with, left work to take her baby to the emergency room. They have no insurance. Of course, taxpayers footed the bill. Some of us baby boomers are sick of it. The baby only had a minor rash.

Answer 7

I guess Bush did not hear what Harry Reid said when asked about a compromise on SCHIP bill:"Absolutely not!"

Answer 8

the Dem's tacked amendments on this bill that would encourage ppl WITH insurance to drop it and let the government pay for it. READ the bill and then make those statements, if you can. the Dem's did this to make political statements such as yours and you buy it. please do some independent research and thinking before spouting propaganda that you are force fed. Ted and Orrin are not watching out for you or others, just themselves. they are still to force amnesty on us even now with the dream act. check it out for yourself and you will see.

Answer 9

The system (AS IT EXISTS) is damn good. If it needs some tweaking lets make it happen.

Now a question for you...? If your Democrat leadership was so concerned for the little ragamuffins suffering in $60k/year income families, why didn't they offer legislation the President could sign into law?

The answer is pretty clear. The Democrats are not as interested in 'sob... sniffle' the children as they are in political gamesmanship.

Warm regards,
Douglas

Answer 10

This is a STATE run Health care system the Feds should not be involved at all in the first place. Then it is mearly a way to get More people on the welfare roll. People making choices to have Flat screen HDTV 's and Vacations should not ignore their healthcare. AND it is not the Feds Problem.