Let's entertain your theory that the media is controlled by Jews, its been my experience that Jews particularly the orthodox "Zionists" you're referring to view their women the same way most Muslims do. After all Islam and Judaism both come from the same Misogynistic Abrahamic background. And well most people in the R&S section know my view of the man known as Abraham, if he even existed.
So why would, a culture whom views women the same way as Arab and Islamic cultures try and make others think that is was wrong? Because wouldn't that hurt them in the long run once they try to "rule the world"
Just because a woman is not submissive to her husband or male family member does not mean she lacks any amount of respect for them. I am not "submissive" to my father but I respect, value, and love him with all my heart. I would gladly and with out hesitation take a bullet for him. I listen to his words, his thought, his feelings and his suggestions, and take it all into consideration especially when he's thinking in my best interest. Many times I do listen and act upon his suggestions and critiques. But sometimes I don't because I am my own person, I am not owned by anyone, and sometimes what I want, what I do, what I've considered, is what I feel is best for me.
Do not assume that submission = respect. It doesn't not in the least.
2007-10-19 15:39:59
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answered by Anonymous
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1) Are you speaking as a man who knows a mans experience, or as women I have talked to.
2) How do you know the "Zionist" anythings owns, influences, or dictates anything? Do you know for yourself or are you believing and propagating on what American Muslims call "propaganda" and "indoctrination not education"?
3) How do you know what an American believes? Do you talk to them, or watch the aforementioned media that you believe to be propaganda machines owned by Jews?
PS: How would a woman in an Arab country know what a bacon wrapped, cheeze stuffed prawn tastes like when she has never eaten it? If she doesn't know food without tasting it, then how would she know freedom. The women whose opinion you should ask are those raised in your Arab countries, and then living free in the USA. If you have never talked to such a woman, then your question, is based on the false premise that you have an authoritative source.
2007-10-19 13:10:47
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answered by Curly 6
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It appears that you have little understanding of either American media or Islam, but you certainly do have your own prejudices.
Perhaps spending a little time on personal evaluation would be of benefit to you if it results in a more open acceptance of the people around the world.
Broadly speaking, Americans are no different in their way of viewing people of other nations than those people are of judging Americans, or anyone else: all will use the values they have been taught by their parents and teachers, and they will add in the personal life experiences they have garnered over their years .
It would not fit in a religious context, however, had you said that Americans are currently surrendering their freedoms in the false name of security due to intense media efforts to convince them they need to be afraid, you would have a valid and very strong point, despite your prejudice.
Even though they daily demonstrate an inability to grasp this simple truth, Americans do value the freedoms that have governed their lives until now and this includes freedom of choice on many levels plus a constitutional demand that all Americans are equal, which means that any given woman is equal to any given man, by law.
Most Islamic countries apply Sharia law for Muslims. Sharia is often used to constrain women.
Not all Islamic countries practice exactly the same application of Sharia, but there are a great many Muslim women who have come to fully understand that they are very, very, far from equal to men under Sharia law in their country.
One example is that it can take four (4) women to equal one Muslim man, where there is a complaint of violence against a Muslim woman, such as rape. Under Sharia, the man’s word alone is considered stronger than the combined words of three women, thus a complaint of rape could be refused by the police, or, if it does proceed to a court, the court will likely reject the complaint on the basis of lack of evidence, should there be less than four witnesses to support the woman. Obviously, there would seldom be any witness to a rape, so an American will view this horrid situation very differently.
In such a country, even if the rapist is convicted, the woman will be the greatest loser, because through her making the issue public, the woman will herself be shamed publicly, and her family will almost invariably punish her severely, very possibly dismiss her from her family, cast her out of her home, even kill her themselves or arrange for her to be killed.
They will do this because they have been taught throughout their own lives that she will have brought dishonor to them by allowing herself to become impure through rape. This will have become part of their own value system.
Either way, the already-raped woman will lose a great deal more from her life, and she will receive little to no consideration from the male community or her own relatives.
The Muslim men understand their chances of conviction are very slim, even if there was a witness, a condition which would seldom apply, and they understand that most women who are raped will not only never file charges, they will remain quiet, so the rapists remain free to continue defiling other women, and destroying their lives.
Yes, there are benefits to women in some Islamic countries, and they may be treated fairly in other situations, but the above example is not American media-driven opinion. It is certain reality, and for a great many Muslim women, it is a fact of their Islamic lives.
2007-10-20 01:38:46
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answered by Ef Ervescence 6
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Islamic extremists have hijacked your religion and I really see no leaders condeming what they are doing or what they have did. No Islamic leader has spoken out against the taliban for the cruel way they have treated women and the facist belifs they want to impose on their own people.
I heard that the Taliban was threatening to kill any barber who shaved off someone's beard. WTF is up with that? That's is such idiotic stupid BS. No muslims speak out against this, why?
I have been to the middle east and seen the muslim women. Some are more free then others but it appears that the ones who are more oppressed are the ones who buy into the religion bull ****.
2007-10-19 17:06:58
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answered by Anonymous
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Because they watch too much TV and they believe that television is a valid source, when in fact it's not. Public radio is much better - in my opinion. Also most Americans never left their town/city. Not all - just a vast majority.
Israelis have a lot of issues withe the way they treat women too. Just look at this. Watch the video - it's sad but true...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjB.8EyBSNvcKmwTt58kbu3ty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071019172931AAlS95Y&show=7#profile-info-QbzvWJe0aa
2007-10-20 15:27:00
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answered by Anonymous
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i was totally with you until i read the details. get over the "jew media" conspiracy theory, and you might have something.
i think there in a negative perception about arab women here in the west. and i think it is influenced by the media. but i think it mostly has to do with the western idea that we have the best of everything, and anything different is inferior. there *are* problems with women in the arab world, but we rarely ever get to hear about the good things that are going on. there are women's movements, and push for democracy, but stories like that don't sell papers.
2007-10-19 13:57:52
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answered by Anonymous
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Muslim women have been "brain-washed" since young by their religion and culture to have more respect for men, I would say indiscriminately for that matter. Of course some of these women aren't aware of and fuss over their own predicament as they rarely socialize with women outside their culture. They don't know what they're missing. Even if they do, they are powerless to change a deep-rooted and formidable institution.
I feel sorry for them.
2007-10-20 02:07:09
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answered by Anonymous
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Love the conspiracy theory angle.
But seriously folks...try Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. They are in close contact with NGO'S and United Nations bodies - in the KNOW. The evidence, much of the time, is damning.
Here's a question for YOU: why do you lump all arab and Islamic countries together? There are vast ethnic, cultural, regional and national (political) differences between, say...Bosnia and Saudi Arabia...Indonesia and Sudan...Pakistan and Iran...Afghanistan and Tunisia... Some women are clearly worse off than their counterparts living in other jurisdictions.
2007-10-19 13:34:51
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answered by Anonymous
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How they treat their husbands, just like American and European women varies in itself. Yet, on the whole they revere their husbands. I personally knew a Syrian woman she was an English translator for the Syrian consulate; well as it would have it she and her husband did not get on at all. One day he came home and said something foul to her; she took off her shoe and whipped it at him; hit him in the head with it dead on. I have met another woman who's husband would literally scream at her while she was cooking and she kept her lip zipped. See, you have two different contrasts. * I don't think it is totally the media to tell you the truth. I've seen American women marry these men and they shouldn't've in the first place; considering the vast differences in culture alone; let alone relegious shocks. Now, many of the marriages do workout. Yet, some don't; often times than not their stories aren't at all pretty; those who don't have pretty stories are usually the ones who seek out to educate the world on how bad Arab men are. Then you might get an American woman, who's married to an Arab, complains that he treats her like dirt (yet says but I love him) and there you go again.
Edit: You ladies are indeed a joke onto yourselves, especially the ones who cannot get past honor killings and the burka, as it is known in Afghaniistan. Over here in Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan, Iraq is called a veil. One tracked minds I tell ya.
Well, there's already a bee in your bonnets so one more won't hurt. Women in the ME have been owning their own businesses and property for hundreds of years now. Way before Saudi Arabia has become an official country. They've also enjoyed the leisure of keeping their maiden names after marriage, none of what they owned ever went to their husband unless of course they wanted it too. Oh by the way I wouldn't be in too much of a hurry to help those ladies; tradition is quite strong there and you may find yourselves in one heck of a mess that you didn't see coming and the blame will be put on you.
Edit Poster: No they are not enslaved or owned by their men' like I said before those women revere their men, so much so they won't allow the men and or their sons to do housework.
2007-10-19 14:00:20
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answered by Anonymous
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Western women have lnow, for the most part, thrown off the tyranny imposed on them for centuries by the Christian Church and its values inherent in past political and legal structures. Islam is still in the equivalent of the Middle Ages, intolerant, inquisitorial , tyrannical and sexist. It has nothing to do with Zionism which can be equally intolerant in its more fundamentalist expression.
2007-10-19 13:17:54
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answered by janniel 6
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