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FISA would have let them spy on international phone calls or individuals with activity patterns suggestive of international conspiracy, but the Patriot Act is so much better because it sets domestic citizens in the spotlight regardless of their activity! I don't know about you, but I never did trust the Jones family down the street and I'm glad the government is finally going to get involved and sort them out without having to find any pesky probable cause.

I know I'm personally sick of not having a personal FBI agent following me around and protecting me! If only I could be so lucky as to come home and see all my personal property upturned and scattered around my house - then I'd feel really safe.

I know I couldn't sleep at night before when the government had to get a warrant to spy on citizens with no international connections, what about you?


Source: Full text PDF of the judge's ruling
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/09/26/mayfield.patriotact.summary.judgment.pdf

2007-10-19 11:40:42 · 20 answers · asked by freedom first 5 in Politics & Government Politics

You missed the point - they already could listen to your international phone calls. I'm talking about agents walking into your house with no warrant and following you around town with no oversight!

Thank God the government is there (in your bedroom) to protect my freedom.

2007-10-19 11:47:21 · update #1

20 answers

You know what makes me glad? That the judge saw through the government's argument. I read every word of that document, and sure enough, the real juicy stuff was at the end. It still warms my heart to see a judge telling the executive branch that yes, they DO have to follow the rules as defined in the Constitution:

Despite this, the FISCR (referred to as the defense) holds that the Constitution need not
control the conduct of criminal surveillance in the United
States (WHAT!? ARE YOU F'ING SERIOUS?). In place of the Fourth Amendment, the people are
expected to defer to the Executive Branch and its representation
that it will authorize such surveillance only when appropriate (YEAH, TRUST THE GOVERNMENT TO ONLY DO WHAT'S RIGHT!).
The defendant here is asking this court to, in essence, amend the
Bill of Rights, by giving it an interpretation that would deprive
it of any real meaning. This court declines to do so (RIGHT HERE! MY FAITH IN AMERICA IS RESTORED).
For over 200 years, this Nation has adhered to the rule of
law - with unparalleled success. A shift to a Nation based on
extra-constitutional authority is prohibited, as well as illadvised.
In this regard, the Supreme Court has cautioned:
The price of lawful public dissent must not be a
dread of subjection to an unchecked surveillance
power. Nor must the fear of unauthorized official
eavesdropping deter vigorous citizen dissent and
discussion of Government action in private conversation.
For private dissent, no less than open public
discourse, is essential to our free society.
Keith, 407 U.S. at 314.
Therefore, I conclude that 50 U.S.C. §§ 1804 and 1823, as
amended by the Patriot Act, are unconstitutional because they
violate the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution. (WOO HOO!)
Plaintiffs' Amended Complaint for declaratory relief is granted.
CONCLUSION
Based on the foregoing, plaintiffs' motion for summary
judgment (doc. 126) is granted. Defendant's motion to dismiss
the Amended Complaint (doc. 134) or cross-motion for summary
judgment (doc. 134) is denied. (SO GET BENT, AND NEXT TIME GET A WARRANT!)

2007-10-19 12:19:26 · answer #1 · answered by Bigsky_52 6 · 2 2

Psst, where have you been? The NSA has been able to that for years and suddenly, now, you're concerned.

Oh, by the way, got a cell phone? It emits a signal every ten minutes whether you're using it or not that can be tracked.

Got a credit card? Your spending habits are all neatly listed and categorized. They can be tracked.

You have a computer, you already know your online activities can be tracked.

Got a Blackberry, laptop, OnStar on your vehicle, or any of the other must have gadgets of the times? Those are all traceable.

There's more but you get the idea. You worried too little, too late.

2007-10-19 11:52:16 · answer #2 · answered by Chris L 3 · 7 0

Get rich quick schemes in the capitalist business world, (buyouts, IPOs, conglomerates, acquisitions, mergers, and the stock market), do not actually work. Remaining solvent does not actually exist within false economics capitalism.

Profit existing in the capitalist business world, or millionaires existing within capitalism, is pathological deception committed by the 21 organizations spying on the population with plain clothes agents, (with covert fake names and fake backgrounds).

Actual economics is the persons paying the monthly business loan payments of companies voting at work in order to control the property they are paying for.

Capitalism is the psychology of imaginary parents, false economics, and the criminal deception of employees that are paying the bills (including the stocks and bonds, or shares) of companies.

Anti-democracy republicanism is the psychology of imaginary parents and false government.

2007-10-20 04:01:20 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Criminal Record Search Database : http://SearchVerifyInfos.com

2015-10-23 01:17:47 · answer #4 · answered by Chan 1 · 0 0

International phone calls are monitored by computers, with a word sensitive program, certain words like Bomb, Explosion , Guns etc, will activate the recorder, and information collected are checked by Anti Terrorism agents.

2007-10-19 12:00:02 · answer #5 · answered by ? 5 · 3 1

Aren't you glad that Hillary has done the same thing in the past, but not for National Security purposes.....

2007-10-19 12:24:10 · answer #6 · answered by Jadis 6 · 1 0

Neo-cons feel safer. Neo-cons say that only terrorists should be concerned about the 4th amendment to the US Constitution being violated.

2007-10-19 11:55:45 · answer #7 · answered by Chi Guy 5 · 2 2

Those that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

~Benjamin Franklin

2007-10-19 11:59:21 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

No, I'd rather see the radical Islamic sleeper cells in the USA kill another 3000 Americans.

I can be sarcastic just like you.

2007-10-19 11:49:56 · answer #9 · answered by pgb 4 · 4 3

Whatcha hidin' honey?

2007-10-19 12:25:06 · answer #10 · answered by DesignDiva1 5 · 2 1

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