Are Muslim claims to Israeli land religiously flawed?

Question

According to Qu'ranic teachings and the hadiths, Arab existence prior to the advent of Islam (in the 7th Century AD) is termed a time of darkness and infidelity (jahilya---I think this is the right spelling). Anything that transpired during this Arabic dark age is considered irrelevant to the history of the Muslim community (ummah).
If that is so, than how do claims of Muslim precedence in the area gain acceptability? Sure, Muslims gained control of Jerusalem and parts of modern Israel between the 10th-12th Centuries, but the Jewish tribes were there long before and were only 'dissolved' in 70 AD by the Roman Empire.
Muslims cannot have it both ways. Either Islam reigns pure and they have no primary claim to Israel, or this Qu'ranic declaration must be ignored.........thus ignoring Allah.

Answer 1

God gave the land of Israel to Abraham (Genesis 17:8) and to his descendants through Isaac (Genesis 26:2-5) and Jacob (Genesis 28:1-4,13-14).

They are God's people by covenant. To Abram (Abraham), He said that He will make of him a great nation. (Genesis 12:2) He has also said that He will bless those who bless them and curse those that curse Israel. (Gen. 12:3)

To the Arabs...He promised many descendants....not land.

Ishmael was promised that his descendants would be "multiplied exceedingly" (Genesis 17:20).

I am Christian and believe this completely.

Answer 2

This is not an answer to the above Ques. more comment.
I get a big kick out of the fact that when ever the question and or arguement of modern day Israel's existance runs into the historical area the land of Canaan is never mentioned. I remember one time in SanDiego in one of the city parks they had little buildings that represented various countries, one of them was the house of Israel, I steped into this house of Israel and one of the first things I noticed was a timeline on the wall showing from the eareliest days to present the country of Israels existance. I noted that at the earlest end there was no mention of the country of Canaan, I asked the guy who was in attendence about it, I was told very very imphactically, "THAT WAS BEFORE HISTORY". For thoes who know the or story about the, "Bloody land of Canaan", there was never any worrey about the right of return of the Canaanits.
I notice how the above questioner as avoided mentioning Palestine when the area was in Arab controol. I've actually had people ask me, "what is a Palestinian?" Ans.: a person who once lived in a country called Palestine
I wish to state most imphactically I my self am not in any way shape or form an, "anti semite - I do not hate Arabs" nor any of the other semetic people.

Answer 3

And the Bible only adds to the ambiguity. In the Old Testament, God promises the land of Israel to the children of Abraham. Muslim, Christian and Jewish mythology all say that Abraham had two children: Isaac, the patriarch of the Jewish people, and Ishmael, who fathered the Arabs. So both peoples have claim to Israel. Some believe that God's intent was for both the Arabs and the Jews to live in harmony in Israel, and that the Temple was to be a "house of Prayer for all People" (Isaiah). So, no, I don't agree that Arab/Muslim claims to Israel and Jerusalem are religiously flawed. Islam incorporated the previous beliefs about Arab descent from Abraham (they write it as Ibrahim) along with other extant beliefs - the Black Stone was worshipped by the pagans in Mecca, but Muhammad incorporated the Black Stone and the Kaaba into Islam. The belief is that Ibrahim and Ishmael themselves built the Kaaba.

And while writing Arabic words in the English script makes spelling difficult and agreement on a particular convention rare (is it Koran or al-Qu'ran? Saladin or Salah ad-Din?), probably better to spell the word "jahiliyyah" which probably gives an English speaker a better chance of pronouncing it correctly.

Answer 4

Your logic is flawed. Israel's claim to the land is invalid under muslim belief because they abandoned the land before the advent of Islam.

Try to think BEFORE you post.

Answer 5

Israel has a small portion of land compared to the Emeritus so this could be settled by other nations taking the Lebanese in. Israel is not a threat to anyone who does not want to destroy them.

As for the answerers who doubt God, watch anyone who tries to attack Israel get defeated, miraculously.

Answer 6

Jews should have their homeland in the USA ...a country where the majority of Jews choose to make their home.Hey presto! end of the middle east conflict!!!!!

Answer 7

The Jews Holy book says one thing.
The Muslims Holy book says another.
And the Christians.....they certainly have enough blood on their hands.
Just seems like religion is some kind of curse on humanity.

Answer 8

That's the trouble with worshiping an invisible being, anyone can put words in to his mouth. It's not like he's going to show up and refute them.