I'm not certain they want that type of help
2007-10-19 04:40:13
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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It is not clear that the liberated Iraqi people, those still alive and uninjured, have gained. The Kurds may have gained for now, but there is no telling how long that will last. On Bush’s own terms, the Iraq War was a blunder. America has suffered a setback, a large frustration, in other words a defeat, although not a classic battlefield defeat. The U.S. has weakened itself and spent precious blood, bodies, energy, moral capital, and wealth on a useless war. By contrast, bin Laden can always point to Iraq as a recruitment tool. With limited resources, he managed to draw the U.S. onto an Arab battleground and become tied down while he and his cohorts remain at large.
Invading Iraq was a mistake. Why did President Bush invade Iraq? More broadly, why are we involved with Iraq at all? Why aren’t Congress and the Executive exiting the morass which is Iraq? Vice-President Cheney (8/29/06) says that withdrawing from Iraq would be "a ruinous blow to the future security of the United States." How absurd to suppose that a country with our might would be ruined by leaving Iraq! We will actually be strengthened. Why are they steering toward war against Iran? Answer why we are in Iraq and we answer these questions too.
2007-10-19 11:47:25
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answered by Easy B Me II 5
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I was in Iraq a couple of years ago. I tried to help the people while I was there, however, what do you think the American people would think if England invaded us, and had troops patrolling for several years?
I think it's time that the US got out of Iraq. There was never a reason to invade a country that hadn't attacked us, especially without a Declaration of War. If you listen to our politicians reasons for our continued presence, they sound very similar to what the Germans were telling the Norwegians during World War Two. They were there to protect Norway from a British invasion.
I am not comparing American troops to the Nazis (although I think the comparison is valid in the case of Blackwater), but I am saying that nobody likes being occupied by a foreign power. The longer we stay, they more resentment it generates. Resentment equates to terrorism, and terrorism gets us police state legislation like the Patriot Act, the National ID card, warrantless searches, abolition of habeas corpus & c.
We need to change our foreign policy back to the traditional American idea of non intervention. We need to restore our Bill of Rights. I think we have more to fear from our own politicians than we do from terrorists.
2007-10-19 12:02:02
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answered by iraqisax 6
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I am not a liberal, but I will tell you the real reason we are in Iraq is to make sure we control it so we can have cheap oil. Osama is not even in Iraq. The terrorists are all over the middle east. There were no weapons of mass destruction, yet we are still in there. There are innocent dead people everywhere. Children will grow up without parents. And for what?
I liked Bush as a person and I believed him. But now he knows he screwed up, but he has too much pride to admit it and get out.
2007-10-19 11:42:26
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answered by lefttheroom222 4
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You're right! Liberals are probably too shallow to understand that we're 'in' Iraq to help wealthy elitists, industrialists and power brokers become wealthier and more powerful.
Liberals probably aren't capable of understanding how Bush's number-one non-military 'benchmark' will force the Iraqi Parliament to surrender two-thirds of its oil fields to private foreign oil companies, which - in effect - allows Exxon-Mobil and others to literally STEAL Iraq's most valuable economic resource.
Liberals couldn't possibly conceive of the idea that we will remain in Iraq for decades- perhaps even generations - until we've sucked every drop of OIL from that nation's sands. That's why we're building the largest embassy in the world on a 104-acre site in downtown Baghdad overlooking the 'new' Iraqi puppet government installed by the Bush administration; and that's why Halliburton is building fourteen (yes -14!) new permanent U.S. military bases in Iraq.
Liberals aren't smart enough to understand that 675,000 Iraqi citizens and 3,800 U.S. soldiers have sacrificed their lives so that a handful of government contractors can make BILLIONS in profits off the backs of American taxpayers.
Those liberals just don't understand we're in Iraq to 'help' people: we're there to help millionaires become billionaires; to help boost the giant military-industrial complex profits; to help generate more profits for Big Oil; and to help people in the U.S. government become more politically powerful and more in control of the world.
Why can't liberals understand - we're there to HELP!!
-RKO- 10/19/07
2007-10-19 11:49:04
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answered by -RKO- 7
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Fact more people died from American help then from Saddam Hessian, Bush lied to the American public about WMD, the Iraq people never ask for this, yet this situation has be thrusted on them and in the end this will end up an Iraqi solution. End of story
2007-10-19 11:45:55
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answered by Anonymous
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Apparently some conservatives don't either, because I don't see war as a way to help people. Especially when thousands of lives are lost.
Helping people should come from charitable organizations and churches, not from the government and war.
Be careful to label political views on these things, as many Republicans are running against the war. For example, Ron Paul, a Republican candidate and current congressman, voted against the war since day one.
2007-10-19 11:42:27
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answered by stevo 2
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PEACE NEGOTIATOR: Both liberals and conservatives have no understanding of the Iraq War. Bush supporters believe that we are there to defend freedom and to help the Iraqi people. Liberals, some of them, feel that we are in an illegal war.
Bush supporters fight back and contend that Saddam was a bloody tyrant and we had to get rid of the tyrant.
Fact: We destabilized Iraq and change a nation's regime. Iraq was better off under Saddam and Saddam, prior to our illegal invasion in 1990 (CIA and my firm cites this fact), was no threat to US national interest.
Fact: Many members of Congress don't subscribe to the truth of the Iraq War and therefore their reasoning on a solution to the Iraq War is off-key.
Opinion: Some posters in this forum do not understand and do not care to understand what the Iraq War is all about. It is my guess that some people have their biases and favorite political candidates. It is my guess, also too, that many do care (?).
WE ARE NOT IN IRAQ TO HELP THE IRAQI PEOPLE!
The true reason we are there is because the Iraq War was an illegal cover up for Reagan-Bush oil dealings in the Middle East and the Reagan-Bush people looked at Saddam as a threat. We (they) therefore took Saddam out, doing it by two illegal Iraq Wars and 11 years of illegal sanctions.
The Reagan-Bush people fabricated evidence that Saddam was a threat and that Saddam violated UN Resolutions, which was not true.
We intentionally killed off people to have things our way (Reagan-Bush), in spite of the fact that a small independent Republican-based conflict negotiation team secured Saddam's agreement to withdraw and to sit down at the bargaining table to negotiate or speak of terms of regional security, trade, and peace in the region.
The press never published this story and CNN was interested 10 years later. Sad!
The Reagan-Bush people should have been brought up on charges of high crimes and treason, violations of the US Constitution, and for the murders of an estimated 1.8 million innocent Iraqi lives.
Any political candidate willing to bring up the truth of the Iraq War, in an effort to bring true justice to Iraq, has my vote and he or she is doing the right thing by this nation and the Christian god who is a god of truth and justice.
I spoke to Kucinich and wrote to Obama and Hilary Clinton. And it is my guess that no one is willing to stand for truth and what is right for fear of losing and being publicly humiliated.
Max
Iraq war negotiator 1990-91
Ps: I have no money or this (ending the Iraq War and bringing our troops home) would be one of my number one priorities. I wish that you people kept the pressure on President Bush, the media, and Congress.
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2007-10-23 00:34:20
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answered by peacenegotiator 3
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Yes we understand
We were also in Vietnam to help people
We failed in Vietnam because we never had the hearts and minds of the people.
Then we lost the hearts and minds of the people at home
Exactly the same thing that is happening with Iraq and eventually Afghanistan.
Peace
Jim
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2007-10-19 11:45:22
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answered by Anonymous
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Assuming the impulse to "help people" was the reason for invading Iraq, liberals (and most others) are asking themselves just how it's working out and the answer is: Not so good.
HELPING PEOPLE is an interesting phrase. How are the families of injured US military and private contractors HELPED? How have our children and grandchildren who inherit the trillion dollar war debt HELPED? How have the millions of Iraqis fleeing the war been HELPED? How are those killed, widowed, or orphaned been HELPED?
I do know how Haliburton stock holders and the owner of Blackwater have been HELPED. What we don't know is the extent of that HELP and the threads that link those HELPED.
2007-10-19 11:42:43
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answered by murphy 5
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If Bill Clinton would have done his job as commander and chief, we wouldn't have had Sept 11, thus we wouldn't be in Iraq or Afghanistan. The only thing Bill Clinton was worried about was his own legacy. He was afraid of failing at war. Al Queda flourished under Bill Clinton. Eighteen Americans were killed in Somalia and he quites. Osama Bin Laden saw us as being weak. Bill Clinton has 3000+ dead American civilians on his hands and not one liberal would ever admit that.
2007-10-19 11:53:40
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answered by Conservative 3
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