What happend to the separation between church and state?

Question

Ok im not a women or a gay man but i do understand the certain hardships they are going through. And i cant spell for my life.
The president of the United States of America has no right to ban gay marige. thats like saying u cant go out after dark. theres no problem with gay marige. and i know allot of people in this country are ignorant espesially the church. and i know they command allot of respect. but even the church isnt so holy anymore. (some priests + boys = bad news) not every priest is a perv. the idea of a god is nice, it gives people hope and something to live for. however there are side effects.
Abortions, no matter how you feel about the subject is erelevant. theres nothing in the constitution or the bill of rights that states abortions are illegal. so if you are pro life shut it. theres nothing you can do. if a woman wants to get an abortion so be it. its her damn choice, live with it. just like i have to live with traffic, its never going to go away.

Answer 1

I think that you should educate yourself on the law a little bit before you share your opinions, I don't want you to make yourself look stupid by sharing ignorant opinions.
A good place to start would be the Founding Father's works, it is clear that they believed in God and didn't intend for separation of church and state to turn into government supported atheism.
As for abortion and gay marriage, they are much more bound up in a discussion of Constitutional interpretation than they are in morality (that's why abortion is legal even though over 50% of the population doesn't support it). Gay marriage doesn't exist for the same reason we don't allow polygamy - not because we hate gays.

Answer 2

Separation of church and State does not mean that no display of faith in God is allowed in any government place, it means that the US Congress, Judicial and Executive branch cannot specify a “State Religion”. And it does not. This clause was in response to many governments who created a “State-sponsored religion” and if you didn’t belong to it, you couldn’t participate in the government. THAT is what the spirit of the law says. Here it is in quotes:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

Now to Gay Marriage: The problem I have with Gay Marriage is simply this: They want to call their union “Marriage”. The biblical definition (sorry, but marriage IS “made in heaven”) and the definition which has been accepted for hundreds of years is “a union between a Man and a Woman”. Call the union of two homosexuals whatever you want, give them all the rights that a married couple has, but don’t call that union “Marriage” because (sorry) it isn’t. Save the word "Marriage" for the union of a Man and Woman. Find – or create – and new word for a homosexual union and that whole concept will be fine with me.

Abortion: Dude, abortions weren’t even feasible 230 years ago. So obviously, the founding fathers didn’t consider it when they constructed the Constitution. Personally, my take is that they were pretty moral people, so I doubt “the right to an abortion” would have set well with them. They probably would have left those decisions to the different States. Still, I don’t think abortion should be illegal -- but I also don’t think that unborn children should be killed, unless there is a very, very good reason. Getting drunk and sleeping with some stranger is not a good reason…not good enough to justify killing a future human being. No way.

And as far as your spelling: Use the spell check in your word processor. You’ll present yourself better.

Answer 3

You are correct that the president of the United States cannot ban gay marriage. That is why the president of the United State has not banned gay marriage. The requirements for marriage are an issue that is determined by each states legislature. I know of no state where gay marriage was legal, and then the state went and banned this type of marriage.

You are also correct that the Constitution (that includes the bill of rights) say nothing about abortion being illegal. The Constitution says almost nothing about what is illegal or legal. The Constitution says that the general police power--the power to make criminal laws--is left up to the states. What is funny is that the US Supreme Court decided about 25 years ago that the Constitution says that abortion cannot be outlawed by the State even when we all agree that the Constitution says nothing about abortion. Ain't that weird when you really stop and thing about it?

Answer 4

#1. There is no separation of Church and State.

Not in the Constitution, not in the Declaration, not in the Laws of the US.

#2. The President doesn't ban gay marriage. He veto's legislation that he doesn't think is good for the US. However; with a 3/4 vote in the House and Senate, this would pass into law.

THAT means that there isn't that much support in the US for gay marriage, or the Senators and Representatives would just override the veto.

#3. We legislate morality ALL THE TIME.

You can't sleep with underage persons.
You can't marry more than one person.
You can't show porn to children.
You can't have sex in public.

#4. And, for the time being, marriage is defined as one man and one woman. If a couple wants to have a special relationship, they can draw up a contract that gives them similar privileges to married couples.

Answer 5

The only President who has ever signed a anti gay law, was Bill Clinton, when he passed the Defense of Marriage Act.

No president has ever banned gay marriage.

Gay marriages, have been banned my the citizens, in all 50 states.

In two states, the courts, over ruled the citizens of those states and said they had to allow gay marriage.

And to use your own logic against you, there is nothing in the constitution that says gay people should be allowed to get married either.

Answer 6

Maybe you also should know that Bush isn't a Catholic and so is majority of the Christian Right. Also last time I checked, they actually killed/castrated Gays, which shows your ignorant.

Also, the thing is, the Declaration of Independence does actually say something about LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS and if these are infringed it is the right of the people to overthrow the government and make a new one. Which I think we should do so we can hang the traitors in congress.

Also, no where in the Constitution does it say there has to be Separation of Church and State and it was said in a letter so it is not law, but a thought of one person. We also used to use the Bible as one of the text books and it was also use as moral compass in the schools.

Answer 7

government happened to separation of church and state! I completely agree with you. I believe the government has no right to dictate what marriage is and no right to tell two consenting adults what they can and cant do in the privacy of their own homes. I think people should realize not everyone believes in the same things and some should not have to live their lives by lets say...Christian values if it is not what they believe in. Unfortuneately there are people out there who agree with the extremely conservative portion of gov't and since gay marriage IS up to the STATE help pass these laws that basically say "I dont believe in gay marriage and others should have to live by my opinion". Honestly, why do they even care....for the "institution of marriage" lol almost half of marriages end in divorce (im not talking down about people who divorce for ACTUAL reasons like abuse, abandonment, etc.) straight people dont have to honor the institution of marriage but gays do? I am not gay but I dont understand marriage....gay people who truly love each other cant get married legally in the US, however if you are straight you can know someone for less than a year never live with them and jump straight into a marriage...you can get married before you are even a legal adult (you actually can I know someone who did), but gays cant marry? Can you say HYPOCRISY!!! Personally, later in life I will only entertain the idea of getting married if everyone else has the right to do so with the person whom they choose...who I am to excerise something that people just as qualified as me cant?

Answer 8

I agree I think that making laws with bias due to religion is terrifying. I am not gay and I don't really know any gay people but I really don't see what the issue is....if two people of the same sex want to marry who can say it's wrong? Who decided that being gay was wrong in the first place. Some would say God but what if their God is not your God? Gay marriage is legal in the UK and other parts of the world.
Also the abortion issue.....if one person decides it's wrong due to their religion fair enough but what gives them the right to decide for other people?
People are quick to condemn (and rightly so) muslim fundamentalists who wish to impeach their religion and views on everyone...but if religion is involved in a free country's government aren't they doing the same thing?
I'm a big believer in live and let live and to be honest I just don't get it. To live in a free society is a special thing but that includes choosing your own beliefs and letting people choose theirs.

Answer 9

Separation become from the state no longer from the fellow. when we vote, we opt for strategies of questioning. we strive to opt for those that we anticipate of like because they'll likely "interpret" subject matters and rules a similar way we do. yet when we opt should you imagine in yet otherwise then us they "interpret" issues in yet otherwise. We ask why there appears to be like no separation of church and state it really is because we disagree with the way the administration "translates" subject matters. all of it comes right down to interpretation. You "interpret" that there is no separation of church and state. at the same time as the present controlling administration believes that there is an absolute separation of church and state. that is all about interpretation. Vote!

Answer 10

Woodn't it be a better wurld if ALL our children (who didn't get aborted) grew up to be GAY? We should strongly incourage them to ALL BE GAY. Ispecially in the publik skools. They kud have gay classes to show them how.

Oh ya, and every woman shood be reqwired to have at leest one aborshun just so the ones that chuuse to have aborshuns wont feel so bad. Gee, that woold be wunderful!

(Yes, I am making fun of you.)