Yeah, right in neverland maybe.
2007-10-18 16:16:43
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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You can buy what you want, but at least those with none would not be bleeding to Death in Humana hospitals on an ER floor for 45 minutes while Md's and Rn's walked over her body.
I know, it will probably anger you that the head of Anthem probably won't make $12 Million a year and all their stockholders wont get paid for doing nothing but make profits from denying care!
I don't get that care now, and neither do most Americans so don't ask silly questions. And who says it isn't socialized now, just those paying the burden for the rich are the poor!
I never understood when you screwed the poor out of money it is OK, but if you take some from the rich it is "redistribution of Wealth"! The top 1/2 percent own 90% of the wealth! Do they want it ALL?
2007-10-18 23:24:28
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answered by cantcu 7
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I live on the Canadian border where they have socialized health care. If they want any serious thing done for them in a hospital they come to the US for it.
Most but not all of their doctors are 2nd rate. The waiting list is horrific....Those doctors make nothing compared to our overpaid ones. BUT! If you were a good doctor, where would YOU go.
Get overpaid in America or stay pitifully underpaid in Canada ?. They retain the worst of the worst. The better ones come over here for the bucks.
You're thinking is right. There's NO WAY the masses will get the same care as the so called elite.........As much as I hate the prices of our doctors, believe me, this socialized healthcare will NOT work.
Pay out the butt for health insurance if you must, but as with all other things, there is no Santa Clause.
2007-10-18 23:40:21
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answered by Carl R 4
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I have lived in countries with socialized medicine, and I can tell you while there are advantages to the system there are also numerous disadvantages. If it is really such a great system then why do those in socialized countries who can afford it come to the US for treatment, as well as those who need urgent treatment for serious conditions -- they certainly don't rely on socialized medicine unless they have no other choice. About the only time socialized medicine is beneficial is when you have minor problems, or routine checkups (like a fever, a rash, or a yearly physical, etc ...). Anything other than that and get ready for the queue ... sometimes is can be a waiting list of several years, and some of these people have conditions that require immediate surgery.
I also think its ridiculous how people who tout the benefits of socialized medicine seem to think it just kind of pays for itself. You still have to pay for socialized medicine ... your premium is just included in your substantially increased taxes, only you don't have any choice in the matter. You can't sit there and say "private healthcare doesn't work because it's expensive," and then hide the fact that socialized medicine would cost just as much (only you pay it to the IRS). And, if you don't believe me just go to a country with socialized medicine ... you think American taxes are repressive -- in Sweden (for example) over 50% of my monthly paycheck went to taxes (and the vast majority of it to pay for socialized health and dental care).
Do you really think Clinton, Obama, Edwards, or any of these other pro-Socialized medicine advocates would have anything do with socialized medicine for their own insurance ...? Don't even delude yourself to think they would ... they all have some of the most expensive private health insurance plans available, and why ....? Because you get the level of treatment you pay for.
2007-10-18 23:30:21
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answered by blursd2 5
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Contrary to popular perceptions, it is the rich -- the upper class -- who have the most to gain from socialized medicine.
Think about this. The poor in the United States already have medical care. (It's not great, but it isn't any worse than what people have in countries with socialized medicine.) If we have socialized medicine, it won't change anything for the poor. The middle class, however, will lose the option of buying private insurance or paying out of pocket -- the substantially higher taxes, needed to support socialized medicine, will eliminate that option. The rich, however, will have access to socialized medicine AND still have enough dough left over to pay for private care if they prefer. I know, I know, the rich pay taxes too, and we have a progressive tax system. However, the rich also enjoy tremendous tax breaks and have various means at their disposal -- even in the so-called "socialist" countries -- to place much of their income beyond the state's power of taxation. Even with our progressive tax rates, it is the middle class that ends up giving up more of its income in taxes than any other portion of the population, and it is the middle class who will contribute the lion's share of the costs of socialized medicine. Sure, a rich person's health care will be funded to some extent by his own taxes -- but at least some of it, and perhaps most of it, will be funded by the less fortunate. I really wish people would see this what what it really is: another scheme to spread the cost from those who have less to those who have more; to make ordinary people subsidize the jet-set. We are already doing that in more ways than are immediately apparent.
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On a personal note, I just got a taste of socialized medicine -- to the effect that under its rules, you may have to pay DOUBLE while getting shoddy service. I recently learned that my son needs pediatric therapy. This kind of therapy is provided "free" through a federally-funded program. I put "free" in quotes because that's what the big print says; the small print says that it's free only for those who earn less about $20K per family member, while us yuppies (who are not rich by any stretch of imagination) will have to pay 100% of the cost. You hit that? Not only do we pay most of the taxes that fund this program, but we also have to pay for the services as if we got them privately -- while having no choice of the therapist, putting up with rude and indifferent staff, navigating a mind-boggling bureaucratic maze, and waiting in a queue that stretches for months (in a situation where every single day matters). It's a nightmare, a real nightmare. Thankfully, in this country, we still have the option of saying "To hell with it" and just hire a private therapist. In a system of socialized medicine, people like us may no longer have that option.
2007-10-19 16:57:02
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answered by Rеdisca 5
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Goldenrae9:
Do you really think that the elites will allow for the populace to have the same healthcare as they do. The last I checked Hillary Clinton`s benefits (retirement, healthcare, etc) is better than other federal employees (such as postal workers).
2007-10-18 23:22:45
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answered by The Mighty Quinn 2
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are we capitalist or socialist?dont have to guess what it would be like, just study russia. goverment drove cars while public waited on list. same with food housing clothing... if you did get the same care as the president youd be dead a year or two when your number came up
2007-10-18 23:40:03
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answered by dawn666annapolis 6
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That's the point, to give the everyday citizen access to the same health care politicians get. That's precisely what Clinton is saying.
Quinn: If you want to debate it, feel free to email me.
2007-10-18 23:18:04
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answered by Anonymous
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Are you kidding.
The party bosses in communism always get special care.
2007-10-18 23:17:49
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answered by kevin s 6
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not in america
2007-10-19 01:19:55
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answered by tazzybeer06 7
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