Are all racial attitudes misguided or racist or are there legitimate reasons & concerns?

Question

As a HR manager I hire & fire lot's of people. I have seen many trends and attitudes from employees over the years and I have like many HR people I have experienced many situations that you can't help but notice. I have hired 9 African Americans in the past 6 years, numerous people of all other races and to be perfectly honest it has been "MY" experience they make the worse employees on all levels. Out of the nine 5 were fired for not coming to work, 3 arrested and one sued (unsuccessfully) our company for discrimination. We employee around 275 people in our facility and the average pay is $16.50 hr for entry level postions, may earn well over $25hr. They apply and come completly unprepared, they don't dress in a professional manner nor do they speak in a clear business-like manner. They pull up in a loud (music) car, baggy pants with chains hanging off their necks with a bad attitude.

This is my experience....what's been yours?

BTW...the guy that sued us for not respecting his culture. He "worked" for us for 8 days and sued us for 1 million. 22 of his ex-co-workers came to pre-trial and testified how he used racial slurs against other races and women...his lawyer dropped his case after 30 minutes

Answer 1

As a minority and working in a huge company there are 1500 plus employees here. I see it from every race the lateness, the not giving a s**t whether they do the work or not. So you get it from everybody and they pay here is so so. But the company doesn't treat the employees right so the employees don't give a 100% b/c the employer wouldn't notice either way. If you as the employer showed more interest in the minorities and give them the same respect you give the others they will be sure to show you 150% b/c your showing you care. When an employer doesn't show that they "care" jus a little everyone gets discouraged they want to know they're working towards something not just working. I worked for a company for 10 years and after 10 years they fired me b/c I used email to talk about another job and then tried to block me from collecting. I eprsonally felt that was discrimination b/c after 10 yrs, why do you decide to go thorugh emails? There was no policy saying that I couldn't do that, so yes i sued them and yes I won. I gave them my all and then got shitt** on but. I was the only minority that worked in the "office" and was very professional. So i added color and then after they didn't want the color anymore they found reasons to get rid of me that were so ridiculous. But hey they got it right back 10 times worse and even tried to offer me my job back once they saw i had a case....never put anything in writing would be my advice to you! Treat your employee good and your company will profit. I made them tons of money and deserved every penny I got.

Answer 2

Are you hiring kids or adults? If you hire kids white kids in gangs you will have this experience, if you hire asian kids in gangs you will have this experience, if you hire black kids in gangs you will have this experience. Maybe you should be aiming for kids with an education. What kind of establishment are you having these kids work for? Are we talking a hot dog stand? I cannot believe you having such an important position have enough time with so many people at your "facility" have enough time to come and spew out your racist comments. You must have quite the important position. You are being racist. All the black people I associate with and whites that I associate with and asians that I associate with and mexicans that I associate with are educated and do not dress with the baggy pants and talk slang. You are hiring kids not adults. If you want a professional facility first of all try not being a racist and second of all try to hire people that are adult like. And check their age you may be hiring children to do adult work and that is against the law. If you are a manager I would fire you, you should be a shining example for your "facility" and you show a trashy white racist side.

Answer 3

I was also an HR manager with a very large company in a very large city on the East Coast.......and I found all races were pretty much the same.

Each race has people that fall into 3 main categories.......

1) I'm giving this 110% because that's my work ethic.

2) This is just a job and I'm going to do what's necessary to keep my job.

3) I'm going to try to get away with murder.

People are people.....as an HR manager you should know that.

Answer 4

I come from a totally different culture than yours, I'm Bangladeshi and live in Bangladesh. I have also worked as a recruiting agent for some marketing firms.
According to me, racial patterns are set in us from our surroundings, the environment we live in. Some attitudes are grown based on the actions of particular members of a sect. you know, due to the actions of some African Americans, you can not judge all the others of the same genre.
Actually, attitudes toward other races vary as we perceive in ourselves the activities of these people. In our judgment if they act good and LOOK good, the are good. but if the are not that impressive, we are mostly not satisfied by what hey do.
Similarly, we are guided by what our acquaintances have experienced.
In fine, some racial attitudes are really misguiding, trust only those, which you have got strong grounds and proves to believe.

Answer 5

You are basing your conclusion on a subset of the population of a given race and on the type of people that would work for 16 to 25 dollars an hour. There are various reasons that are more likely causes than just race for the situation you just described; race is just an obvious commonality.

I've worked with many people over the years and I've seen good and bad examples of work ethic in all races and would judge that race has very little to do with it.

Answer 6

Just a thought: Some of us were raised in homes where people went to work dressed in a businesslike manner, got to work every day on time, and talked more or less like TV newspeople. Some of us weren't.

In many urban locations, the ones who weren't, are disproportionately of African descent. If you lived in some other places, you would get the same types of employees (late, not showing up, wrong attitude, bad clothes), but they would be of European descent.

It is highly unnatural to work a 40-hour week, year after year. It helps a lot to have been broken to it from childhood. So the children of people who did that have a big advantage.

Answer 7

Yes love. You say you hire people and they come completely unprepared. I take it that, working in HR (Human Resources) you see some sort of Resumé (CV) from applicants. Do you read these, check them out, inform applicants fully about working conditions and dress code?. You employ 9 non-white people in 6 years. 5 were fired for coming in late, 3 were arrested (you don't say why). You don't say how many whites you have employed in the passed 6 years and how many of them have been dismissed, fired, arrested.

Could it be you are not doing your job properly? Are you employing the wrong people - maybe because they come cheap?

Answer 8

I started a company in the late sixties in my basement and thirty years later I sold it. During that time I had people that were worthless that were black, white, Oriental, east and American Indian, along with some races I can't even remember. The worst people I had to deal with were people that were, and remain ignorant. Funny part is they showed it to others by claiming to be things they weren't. I've always felt sorry for people like this, they have no self esteem.

Answer 9

My experience is that when whites offer high salaries, all of a sudden black folk never get a break. You hear on the news all the time where whites are lazy, surfing porn on the internet and hanging out at the cooler. So I guess it comes down to what color you want to be non productive.

Answer 10

I agree that MOST are like this but not all. I do understand where you are coming from though. But you are going to receive a lot of upset answers.