Because the last two elections were stolen from We the People, don't you think it is time to do away with the

Question

Electoral Collage? It is very outdated!

Answer 1

No, tyranny of the majority is not "we the people"; it is a formula for civil war. Do you really think that minorities should be disenfranchised?

Answer 2

(Copies, Pastes old answer. Since we get one of these questions nearly every day)
The Electoral College:
Pro: The Founders of this nation had a justified fear of complete democracy. They set up a system where supposedly wise men, elected by the people, and holding no other office at the time, would chose a President. They knew "There's a sucker born every minute". They made sure that there was an insulating layer of responsible people between the voter and the presidency. Thus there is some protection from the lies and deceit that went on during election season, then just as it does now.

Con:
1. Those who failed their civics classes, or who have never received any instruction in our system of government, along with those who wish to take advantage of the most ignorant portion or our electorate, continue to complain and question the Electoral College. This makes the sheep easily identified and led by the barking dogs.

2. Those who wish to take advantage of the gullibility of the average voter would like to do away with the Electoral College, in order to make their nonsense campaigns more effective.

Although the Electors of most states are "pledged" to vote for the winner in that state, and most face criminal penalties for breaking that pledge, there may come a time when the Electoral College is forced to muster its courage and go against the vote. This could happen in a scenario where massive fraud or corruption is found between the national election day and the balloting of the Electoral College. This could happen, and is what was intended by the founders of this nation.

Even in the process of electing a President, the Founders of this nation carried on the principle of REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC instead of the more dangerous DIRECT DEMOCRACY.

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Answer 3

I do not believe that the last 2 elections were stolen, but for the purpose of discussion and based on the logic you are using then one election could be considered stolen from the people. This is based on the fact that Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000, but Bush won the popular vote in 2004. The answer to your question is yes. I do believe that the Electoral College should be abandoned and the popular vote should reign supreme.

Krytox1a: Actually I would disagree with Frassle. This was indeed true when the Republic was formed, but the same situation does not apply these days. Today the Electoral College actually disenfranchises many voters. This occurs most often in large states where the political makeup leans either right or left almost ensuring even before the election what way the state will vote as a whole. In places like California and New York many Republicans do not vote, In places like Texas the same is true for Democrats. In the last presidential election the major Democratic challengers did not even bother to actively campaign in Texas at all. The greatest benefits to eliminating the College would be that all candidates hoping to hold the office would have to actively campaign for votes in all states and that it would clear the way for more independent challengers who stand absolutely zero chance of being elected under the current system.

Answer 4

Bush didn't steal either election, he actually won the popular vote in 2004, too, so everyone whining that Gore was robbed needs to get over it. Gore was also trying to keep votes from being counted that likely would've went to Bush.

To answer the question, we must keep the Electoral College. If it's abolished then the candidates will only care about gaining a majority of the popular vote, so they'll only be campaigning in New York, California, Chicago, and other large metropolitan areas. With the electoral college, everyone's vote matters, including more rural states like Tennessee, Kentucky, Kansas, Nebraska, Montana, etc. If the electoral college is abolished and the tyranny of the majority happens, there will be another revolution in this country.

Answer 5

Naw, most of the time they can get us to vote in who they want. When we guess at the wrong one they have the Electoral College to correct the popular vote.

Answer 6

first of all,,,,,,there were several states where illegals were bused to their voting post by Gore,....
....but if we did have a Direct democracy, rather than a Winner take all by the Electoral College, I agree we the People would feel more Powerful.....in the world our Forefathers who lived with no communication,,,,yes understandable this was a viable solution, but NOT now....i think each vote should count.....and by the way Bush had an overwhelming majority if you counted each Vote! not that I am happy with Bush these days....

Answer 7

As an Australian I find your electoral system way too complicated and with way too much razzmatazz(?). If the popular vote by the people is in any way tarnished by your electoral college then you certainly are in need of reform.

Answer 8

The Electoral College never bothered me...until Gore won the popular election but still lost. Now, it definitely bothers me.

Also, I don't see why we need to think of things in terms of "states". Let's think of things in terms of "people". The candidates ought to worry about winning 50% (plus 1 vote) of ALL of the population, not worrying about getting this state or that state. Each individual person's vote counts for the same, but the Electoral College encourages unfairness, because candidates will pay more attention to bigger states trying to win them.

I say we ought to do away with it.

Answer 9

I believe the election in 2000 was a selection by a brother of the current clown in the white house.

Yes, the popular vote should be the way that we elect our President.

We have the technology at our disposal to insure every ones vote is recorded, in the sticks as well as the cities. That's why we have the electoral college, to insure a supposedly even way to elect our president when there wasnt enough representation to go around or technology to insure everyone had a way to cast their ballot in a timely fashion.

Those days are in the past. The electoral college should be as well.

Answer 10

why is it outdated, so selected liberal extremists could claim the need for do overs as in miami dade? cmon. eight years and you STILL havent gotten over it. the system functioned properly.
you lost according to the ny times paid study and several others and there is no need to do away with something thats worked fine for over two hundred years.

YOU LOST
GROW UP
GET A LIFE FOR GOD SAKES.