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should the bouncer forcibly remove the the Muslim or the turban?

2007-10-17 06:18:16 · 13 answers · asked by mohammadwasafalseprophet 1 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

This is the same as No hats allowed.

2007-10-17 06:19:02 · update #1

A special thank you to those who addressed the issue of the Sikh people. Still, my question remains the same concerning Muslims wearing turbans.

For additional information on the prejudice conveyed by turban-wearing in Islamic culture, please see http://members.tripod.com/worldupdates/newupdates10/id52.htm

2007-10-17 08:51:03 · update #2

My best guest would be that a headcovering would be anything which covers the head. Perhaps other cultures believe a headcovering is a place to hide a weapon or something, but in my bar, I use my definitions.

2007-10-18 15:07:12 · update #3

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If I was the bouncer I would have stopped the Muslim at the door and said you have a choice, either take off the head covering or find another bar.

2007-10-17 06:23:10 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

What if the person was a Sikh, against whose country of origin we have never been at war, or a Jew with a yarmulke?

The no hats rule is either traditonal etiquette, or gang prevention.

The bouncer surely has discretion to decide it a person with religious headcovering is a threat to the safety of the bar. Even the roughtes dive bouncer would do the right thing and find a valid cause before instituting physical aggression. They are there to ensure a safe environment, not to start fights, after all.

2007-10-17 06:34:15 · answer #2 · answered by Barry C 7 · 1 1

As long as he applied that rule unilaterally and ejected everybody wearing a ball cap, fedora, cowboy hat, hood, toque or yarmulke. And by forcibly you must ask the patron to leave, only forcibly removing a person would be permissible if the person created a disturbance by refusing.

As a side note Sikhs wear turbans, not Muslims.

2007-10-17 06:55:14 · answer #3 · answered by smedrik 7 · 2 0

Removing the person would be allowed -- that is within the rights of a private business to decide who is allowed onto their premises.

Removing the turban (or a hat) without consent would be assault and battery -- and punishable as a crime.

2007-10-17 06:33:22 · answer #4 · answered by coragryph 7 · 3 1

why would a muslim wearing a turban be wanting to go into a bar in the first place its against their religion

2007-10-17 06:28:25 · answer #5 · answered by Nobby 3 · 2 1

A religious muslim would not enter a den of alcohol and other evil poisons, so the question is ludicrous.

2007-10-17 06:34:19 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Of course not. He should ask him to either follow the rules that are applied to everyone or to leave.

Businesses may refuse service to anyone as long as they are not unlawfully discriminating. If the no hat rule applies to everyone and is enforced against everyone equally, it should not be a problem.

2007-10-17 06:22:55 · answer #7 · answered by raichasays 7 · 5 1

No, the bar should call the local Ayatollah to have the guy beheaded for drinking alcohol.

2007-10-17 06:21:53 · answer #8 · answered by Lavrenti Beria 6 · 4 2

I personally would say no, b/c the muslim headcovering is in a totally different context than "american" headcovering.

2007-10-17 06:21:03 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 7

Since muslims whine about alcohol in their taxis I think this should never be a problem.

2007-10-17 06:22:22 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 5

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