Is this true about Gog and Magog?

Question

That throughout history christians and other groups have changed who exactly are the Gogs and Magogs? I read somewhere that they have been thought of as the Mongols, the Goths, the Celts, Khazars, and various outher groups? Now they are calling them the russians?

People are using this changeable definition of that group to claim the bible prophesies that Russia and Iran will ally.

Answer 1

Gog is Satan the devil in his debased state

Answer 2

This is a subject with NO CONFIRMED answers. I reject ALL HADITH. At one hand we have the Quran which is the ESTABLISHED knowledge. And at the other hand, we have Bible (OT and NT), which is SKEPTICAL i.e. we cannot be certain about anything that Bible says. It may or may not be true. Finally our bench mark is the "Quran". Unfortunately the Quran DOES not reveal ENOUGH tangible information at the moment to reveal what are Gog Magog. ---------------- The Quran tells us that Zulqarnain travelled to the West till he reached some waters. Then he travelled East till he reached a place where there was nothing to even shelter. Considering that most of the world civilization and action ground was around the middle east. If we look into such a map where Zulqarnain may have captured between East and West. Then it may be between Lebanon and Iran/ Balochistan. Or it may be between Caspian sea and Afghanistan. From here he travelled into another direction i.e. neither West NOR East. So it must be either North or South. Lets take North, because in the South we will reach either Saudi Arabia or the sea of the gulf. Then he built a wall, with Hardened Iron i.e. Iron sheets with molten tar and heated to red heat, forms Hardened Iron. This also reveals that the period of Zulqarnain was the early age of Iron. When people did not much know how to bore holes and break the iron shield etc. If we take ALL this into account then I guess the Jewish Rabbis seem to be correct, that the Gog Magog are the Northern nations i.e. North of Georgia and Armenia OR North of Azerbaijan. This may mean the present Europe and Russia and of course the Mongols (for they have the same genes). Obviously the world is ALREADY in a state of invasion by the Europeans and the Russians. And both have a tendency of being ATHIESTS and AGNOSTICS i.e. as per Quran the people complained Zulqarnain that they are corruptors of the earth. Also remember USA is just an off shoot of the Europeans. I also believe that the impotant point regarding Gog-Magog is there characteristics and NOT the origins. The excptions are always there. And God does not discriminate on genetics. The characteristics of Gog-Magog is that they "Corrupt the earth". Which at the moment fits best to the northern nations i.e. Europe, Russia and USA. ----xxx--- The next question would be "Has the invasion Already started". Ans: I think the war is still on. With USA and Russia and Europe imposing and corrupting the rule of the world and with their biggest agendas to manipulate the world. They are manipulating and corrupting the earth under the empty slogans of "Freedom, Secularism, Democracy, world order, Terrorism" etc. All these slogans are used ONLY for corruptions and NONE is associated with any degree of honesty. The invasion is Already there. We are just fighiting a small scale war against them and to a good extent we are losing it. It is pertinent to note that the mention of Gog-Magog is ALWAYS 17 verses before the end of the surah. (It is mentioned in two surahs only). I think this is NOT a coincidence. It probably means that 17 years before the Judgement day, they will be able to wipe out ALL the monothiestic religions from the face of the earth. God knows best !!! ------------ My advice: Forget Hadith, it is useless and baseless. My message: "God Alone, Quran Alone"

Answer 3

Gog and Magog would not be, if Noah did not come through the flood, Noah lived Gen.9:28,29; 350 years after flood, Shem lived 502 years after flood, Gen.11:10;

The flood happened because there were no law and order, so that by year 1656 as the flood year, only violence filled the earth and it was ended, by the
time Abraham is age 75 Gen.12:4; and He is age 86 when Ishmael is born,
427 to 438 years after the flood, he is surrounded by land pirates and not even 10 law abiding persons can be found in Sodom and Gomorrah, THESE
PEOPLE ARE TRESPASSERS ON THE AGES OLD EARTH THAT WAS PREPARED AGES BY GOD AND CHRIST JESUS FOR INHABITANTS. John 17:1-26; Jesus was with God before the world was, Col.1:15-17; Rev.3:14;

Jesus is the resurrection and the life. 1Cor.15:22-28; ALL IS ALL.
John 5:26-29;
Acts 24:15;
Dan.12:2;
Isa.26:19;
Psm.104:29,30;
Rev.20:1-6,12,13;
ALL NEANS ALL. Are resurrected by Christ Jesus, Rev.20:7-10; Rev.21:8; NONE WHO TRESPASS, Matt.6:9-13; REMAIN, AFTER EVERY OPPORTUNITY POSSIBLE IS GIVEN THEY HAVE ONLY SELF TO BLAME.

Eph.2:7; 3:21; The world with Jesus is without end. John 3:16; 17:3; 2Pet.3:13; Rev.21:1-5; ALL IS MADE AS NEW AS BEFORE EDEN.

Answer 4

The Gematria, ie numerical value of Gog um'gog (as it is written) is 70. This refers to 70 prototypical nations descended from the 3 sons of Noah.

Literally, gog um'gog means gog and from gog. Gog has the numerical value of 12. There were 2 sets of sub-nations that the bible speaks of in units of 12. Israel (12 tribes), and Ishmael, father of the Arab nations and Islam.

It is Ishmael, the 12 from the 70 that will lead the battle against God and Israel. and if anyone has any doubts about this, one of the end time prophesies speaks of a 200 million man army. A recent poll showed that 12-15% of muslims worldwide are willing to take up armed jihad against the western world. Do the math. 12-15% of 1.5 billion muslims is 180 to 225 million!!!!

Answer 5

Gog and Magog
A leader and his nation.

Descriptively, Ezek. 38:14,15
Gog and his bands come from the north.

Due north from Jerusalem is Moscow, generally along the same meridian.
("North" also includes Lebanon, Syria, and the former southern provinces of Soviet Russia.)
Historically, most invasions of Israel have come from the north.

Answer 6

This is not new. Gog has been the area of historic Russia since it was written down.

Answer 7

Yes, it's true. As a relevant aside, My grandmother believed that Henry Kissinger was the Anti-Christ.

Answer 8

the Bible maps are very clear, and do not move.

We know a country called Turkey, but in the Bible it was actually Asia.

China is known as Siam in the Bible. The bible never changes, only man's names for countries.

Answer 9

"Christians" have not changed their opinions. Dispensationalists, since the early 19th century, have changed their opinion depending on what the newspaper headlines have to say.

Answer 10

Typical of so-called prophecies throughout history, they are vaguely worded so as to be easily applied or excused as required.

There are no real prophets.