Isn't denying the Armenian and Pontian Genocides akin to denying the Holocaust?

Question

Thank you for the caution. There appear to be other such questions within and I am curious as to whether the "locals" think there is a fallacy in the equivocation.

Such venom! Ma ton Dia ton Yfaistio!
Need I remind you George Santayana's dictum "Those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it"?

Answer 1

With no doubt there has been a Pontian Genocide. Cities like Trapezounta, Samsounta (Amissos), Kerasounta and all the territory of the nothern coast of Asia Minor was populated as from the ancient times by Greeks, and the Pontian idiom is a live proof, being so close to the ancient Greek language. Turks gathered all the male population of Pontos, and sent them to concentration camps for exhausting obligatory work (the Mauthausen kind), which ended with their physical extinction. Ofcourse thousands of them died because of the cold and the hanger on their way there.
Another part of the Pontian population was massacred by the Turks, not respecting even women and children, and a third managed to come to Greece and find refuge here.
Travelling to Pontos, one can observe the Greek houses still existing but never restaured, as their turkish new owners were reluctant to even paint them, the churches are used as warehouses, the public greek schools as administation buildings, but always falling apart.
In Pontos there are still Pontians who speak their ancestrors' language, dance the same dances, and pretend to be muslims, but in private they are still Christians.

Answer 2

YES.
YES.
Yes.
If history is forgotten before we learn from it, what we did that was wrong, we are just going to repeat history without learning a lesson!
How about the Greek genocide???????????????????????
And I am not talking about the 400!!!! years of Turkish occupation in Greece before 1821!
There was again the catastrophe of 1922...
And there is even now the Cyprus invasion by Turks and still occupying half of Cyprus...
I have stories and books and NEWSPAPERS with photos. of the time of my grandfather being uprooted from Asia Minor, of the atrocities the Turks did. Worst than Hitler. Making men and women walk on their bleeding feet for weeks, to reach Greece, raping them and beating them on the way, cutting their hands off when they were trying to hold on to a boat when the Turks were forcing them out of their houses the Greeks who were falling in the sea in order not to get burned or butchered...Anyhow, I realize, & have been told by Turks,that Turks are being brainwashed against the Greeks...
What r u afraid of Turks?? You are 80 milion! Are yu afraid of the mere 10 million Greeks or the even less Armenians??
Wish Greeks also had money to fight for wrong doings.

Nothing against the Turkish public.
Have lots of friends in Turkey and CONSTAboulopoli! Ha,ha a friend Turk and I decided on this compromise for Constantinoupoli.

Why are u in denial blunt I -run etc. ?do not you see going to chauvinistic behavior like this?
+ excuse me : what bad words did I write?

Answer 3

Why is only the genocides against jews and christians are brought to table?
Do you know what the french did in algeria in 50's?
Do you know what the russian did in crimea to circassians and tatar turks?
Do you know what the bulgarians did to ethnic turks?

It was also millions of people sent to exile/killed/tortured in each of these events.
They are alright aren't they? After all, it is just the muslims dying.

You are a hypocrite who sees what he wants to see.

Answer 4

Of course there is!After all Hitler when planing the Holocacaust usred to say in still any protest from his henchmen "Who remembers the Genocide of the Armenians?"and for the gentleman which couldn't find this word in the English Dictionairy:this word is latinate, form from the latin Genus= clan or nation depending from the contect and the suffux -cide which means murder for examle homocide= killing a man (human)

Answer 5

Germany does not deny the
Holocaust so is it the same to who?
There is only 1 dude I know of that denies
the Holocaust...
Turks who continue to deny
their country's past are as
guilty as the Ottoman turks
who brutally massacred
2.5 million Greeks and
Armenians during world
war1. .

Answer 6

Yes, it is. I am sure that if Turkey was in the position of Germany the Holocaust would be highly a taboo. But accepting their crimes was the best thing for Germany, because they moved on.

Answer 7

yes you're right! someone has to talk about all these !

Answer 8

This is the TRAVEL section. Your question is more suited to Current events or Governments or Politics section.

Please becareful. You may get reported by someone for not adhering to Y!A communtiny guidelines.

Cheers

Answer 9

To all these kind people from other countries that are so much interested in our section:
Don't you really understand that we fed up with your crap and we don't give a **** (something that is in WC) for what you believe or don't believe?
Something else to ask or to answer, like "where would you advise me to go..."?

Answer 10

Is this the same dead "Pontians" that migrated to Greece and met with kind "insults" such as "Turk"?

So, the people who accuse me, a person who never uses insults, of being a troll and insult me along the way? :DDD I admire your freedom of speech!

If you don't want me here, why do you come to the Turkey section to express opinion? This is question number one.

And question number two is, if you are accusing a nation of something, how can you expect them to stay silent? Hmmm? Isn't it a bit ridiculous to defend this idea?

Edit: "I have nothing against Turks but I feel free to curse and insult them the way I like". Wow. Why didn't you repeat the bad words you typed down in Turkey section, "is that all there is"? Afraid people know you for the foul-mouth you are? Are you repeating those words to the "friends" you claim to have in Turkey?