2007-10-16 20:19:35 · 20 answers · asked by chrisvoulg1 5 in Travel ➔ Europe (Continental) ➔ Greece
I only wish to underline the hypocricy of our "dear neighbours".
The Turkish fanatic who everyday enters the Greek section looking for (what?) and is hidding behind a ribbon avatar, a few days ago in her answer about Cyprous answered combining the Othomans with the Turks:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AlmirrPIMsRmIOSLM1FS4Fvty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071013120138AANKjnP&show=7#profile-info-11aa037cb5720b96f3902a12d4172226aa
Now she tries to say that Othoman Empire and Turkey are two different things.
Can anybody trust these people?
2007-10-17 04:16:37 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 19⤊ 11⤋
On June 15, 2005 the German Bundestag passed a resolution that "honors and commemorates the victims of violence, murder and expulsion among the Armenian people before and during the First World War". The German resolution mentions that "many independent historians, parliaments and international organizations describe the expulsion and annihilation of the Armenians as genocide", but stops short of doing so itself. It also contains an apology for any German responsibility.
In 2006, the French parliament submitted a bill to create a law that would punish any person denying the Armenian genocide with up to five years' imprisonment and a fine of €45,000. Despite Turkish protests, the French National Assembly adopted a bill making it a crime to deny that Armenians suffered genocide in 1915 at the hands of the Ottoman Turks. The bill has been criticized as an attempt to garner votes from among the 500,000 ethnic Armenians of France. This criticism has come not only from within Turkey, but also from independent sources, such as Orhan Pamuk, Hrant Dink, former French President Jacques Chirac and U.S. diplomat Daniel Fried
International bodies that recognize the Armenian genocide include the European Parliament, the Council of Europe, the Union of American Hebrew Congregations, the World Council of Churches and the Permanent Peoples' Tribunal.
On 4 September 2006, Members of the European Parliament voted for the inclusion of a clause prompting Turkey "to recognize the Armenian genocide as a condition for its EU accession" in a highly critical report, which was adopted by a broad majority in the foreign relations committee of the European Parliament. This requirement was later dropped on 27 September 2006 by the general assembly of the European Parliament by 429 votes in favor to 71 against, with 125 abstentions.
2007-10-17 07:18:57 · answer #2 · answered by Duke of Tudor 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
probable no longer. as properly, there are too many subjects that could desire to be resolved as properly the genocide as a fashion to permit Turkey to develop into member of the ecu. Turkey has extensive unemployment and poverty issues that it desires to be certain first. Germany is probable against Turkey becoming a member of the ecu, via fact that there are a number of Turkish immigrants in Germany, and if Turkey have been to connect the ecu, there might probable be a super wave of Turkish immigrants getting into Germany. Turkey desires to admit the Armenian genocide, remedy a number of its poverty and unemployment subjects, besides as convince Germany to be in desire of having Turkey be a member of the ecu.
2016-10-07 02:11:35 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
the armenian minority in u.s. have pressed for recognition and compensation ,although they are bearly 1.5 million and mostly subside in california ,they havent yet succeded in putting the law through with the officials,this created a back pressure from the turkish side which is reflected on the armenains living there,if eu is gonna put pressure on the turks for the recognition ,it will be a deal breaker ,the turks are dodging it by every way ,,even if its the last line in their contribution to the european community ,dont forget cyprus ,the kurds ,pkk ,the turks now are in a conflict within and without ,the eu will negotiate a compromise for sure ,but in current status unless supported by international approval especially u.s .
2007-10-17 00:06:27 · answer #4 · answered by reifguy 6 · 6⤊ 0⤋
Dear Christo,
If there was one thing that I would like and should EU put pressure to Turkey is "The Aegean sea issue", since Aegean sea is the east border between EU and Turkey.
Armenian Genocide is UN's task.
2007-10-17 00:07:15 · answer #5 · answered by dofaegean 3 · 16⤊ 2⤋
Since we are talking about idiots
grunt man run, your facts as
usual are not facts.
Never was the turkish war criminals
of world war 1 acquitted,
145 politicians,
high ranking soldiers (mainly), administrators
of the Ottoman Empire who
were sent into exile after the Malta trials,
for their roles in the Armenian Genocide
and were used as validation of Treaties of Sevres
which stated all war
criminals were to be tried and sentenced in turkey...
they were all found guilty and after
3 years deported back to Turkey
to complete their sentences.
The Turkish government not
only let them flee, conveniently
lost all the documentation of
those trials claiming they could
no longer hold them with out proper
documents.. Get your facts
straight the next
time or you will continue to look like an idiot.
2007-10-17 07:27:45 · answer #6 · answered by Alana Awareness 2 · 12⤊ 6⤋
Your question reflects your belief in the EU and its judicial system, or its morality standpoint. I have faith in neither of the two. The EU holds no credibility in similar issues; they're guided by nothing except their interest. Also, it would be totally against their own principles, because let's not forget that it was the UK which chose to sweep the whole thing under the carpet (something they are very good at) out of pure interest: they needed the Ottomans as an ally against Russia at the time of the October revolution. The unfortunate Armenians happened to be the price - Europe didn't care if it was in millions then - what makes you think they will care now?
2007-10-16 22:40:05 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 11⤊ 8⤋
Doesn't EU have more important things to do? I think EU should first consider its obligations towards Turkey as regards the customs union agreement. It's working one way now.
Armenians should also concentrate on establishing good relationship with their neighbors.
2007-10-17 02:51:11 · answer #8 · answered by John R 2 · 9⤊ 7⤋
I don't think that pressure will do anything in this case, it can even make it worse.
It's more question of scruple and morality than anything.
Reconciliation is not possible without that.
@ about: Armenia is not in EU but Turkey is trying to enter - very good point. Doesn't EU insists on human rights and democracy as on one of the conditions for entering?
2007-10-16 20:44:56 · answer #9 · answered by Jelena L. 4 · 14⤊ 5⤋
It is really sad that lots of Armenian people died during those times, but also lots of Turks died too.
You know it was WORLD WAR 1... it was a world war... no body can blame the other about genocide or something, if they count this as a genocide, Armenians also should admit what they have done, and Americans should also admit about what they have done at near future in IRAQ remember...
both governments of Armenia and Turkey should just mention about their sadness about those black days, and try to improve their relations. Because we are neighbours, same for Greece, we are neighbours and to improve your economy and power you should be friends with the person you stay shoulder to shoulder.
Time is passing by... instead of spending time with digging the bloody past, we should better look further...
2007-10-17 01:02:05 · answer #10 · answered by yati_yavuz 1 · 11⤊ 11⤋
Turkey, if wants enter EU, should accept European standards, its not only admitting Armenian Genocide.
Armenian, Greek and Assyrian Genocides
Human rights in Turkey
Freedom of speech
and Cyprus problem
are some of the problems concerning EU
Since its Turkey wishing to enter EU, its Turkey that should accept EU and not EU accepting Turkey!
2007-10-17 03:36:45 · answer #11 · answered by ՎԱՀԷ 4 · 22⤊ 11⤋