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make the first flight across the atlantic ocean. what does it say about the education system of the USA that so many people do not understand these three simple facts?

2007-10-16 20:01:32 · 13 answers · asked by ron s 5 in Arts & Humanities History

the Emancipation Proclamation freed slaves only in southern held places. they were not under Lincoln's control. Ford mass produced the car, did not invent it. Lindbergh was the first to solo the flight but not the first to make the flight.

2007-10-16 20:08:04 · update #1

slavery was ended with the passing of the 13th admendment in 1865

2007-10-16 20:10:08 · update #2

it's not a matter of who taught these "facts" it is the matter that so many people take them as facts

2007-10-17 13:05:47 · update #3

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The very first self-powered road vehicles were powered by steam engines and by that definition Nicolas Joseph Cugnot of France built the first automobile in 1769 - recognized by the British Royal Automobile Club and the Automobile Club de France as being the first. So why do so many history books say that the automobile was invented by either Gottlieb Daimler or Karl Benz? It is because both Daimler and Benz invented highly successful and practical gasoline-powered vehicles that ushered in the age of modern automobiles. Daimler and Benz invented cars that looked and worked like the cars we use today. However, it is unfair to say that either man invented "the" automobile.

John Alcock and Arthur Whitten Brown were two British fliers. They were the first people to fly an aircraft non-stop across the Atlantic ocean. They made their flight in 1919. Captain John Alcock was the pilot. Lieutenant Arthur Whitten Brown was the navigator. Their aircraft was a Vickers Vimy, named after a battle in World War One.

As far as the Emancipation Proclamation, it only freed the slaves of the states in rebellion against the North. Northern slaves remained slaves. This was a punitive measure of Lincoln against the Southern states.

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2007-10-17 04:07:51 · answer #1 · answered by gatita 7 · 0 1

First, these three are not quite equal questions

a) Henry Ford - I might like people to get this right, but I'm not sure how important it is

b) Lindbergh - You mean you can't understand why people get a bit confused about details on such distinctions as 'solo' and 'non-stop'? Is this really a critical matter? What of SUBSTANCE is tied up with it?

d) Lincoln -- Well, sorry but whoever "corrected" YOU got you mixed up on this one. Of COURSE, the Proclamation could not somehow, automatically, free slaves ... in fact, none can UNLESS it is enforced. And that's exactly what the Union army did throughout the rest of the war. As soon as they took an area, they freed the slaves. In fact, by the end of the war ALL the slaves in the Confederate states had been freed as a result. What the 13th amendment did was protect them against being RE-enslaved (as might happen if the Proclamation were challenged in court as no longer applying once war ended)

Sorry, but this one IS substantial... and like many who comment on it, and think they're correcting people, you got it wrong.

In case it helps, here's the operative part of the Proclamation:

"I do order and declare that all persons held as slaves within said designated States, and parts of States, are, and henceforward shall be free; and that the Executive government of the United States, including the military and naval authorities thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of said persons."
http://www.nps.gov/ncro/anti/emancipation.html

And here are just a couple sources where you can see what Civil War scholars have to say on the matter:

Allen Guelzo, Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation: The End of Slavery - introduced at:
http://www.abrahamlincolnsclassroom.org/Library/newsletter.asp?ID=1&CRLI=64

http://www.mrlincolnandfreedom.org/inside.asp?ID=3&subjectID=1
(and other pages on the site)

2007-10-17 10:42:36 · answer #2 · answered by bruhaha 7 · 0 0

It just shows how the educational system is not being paid attention to by the students. The teachers try, but students are living this reality that they'll be successful like their idols who didn't graduate high school.

Anyway, I did know about the Emancipation Proclamation and Henry Ford. As for Lindbergh, I don't recall my history teacher talking about him being the first to fly across the Atlantic Ocean.

I think this goes directly to the American psyche. We are the only superpower; we know it and we believe it. With that, we instantly believe that we are always the first and the best which is not always true. This US only (not U.S. only) mentality is detrimental to our cultural identity. What makes us Americans? Is it just because we are technologically advanced? How sad...

2007-10-16 20:19:18 · answer #3 · answered by makingfunnie 2 · 0 0

Henry Ford invented the assembly line, and he also invented charcoal, but he didn't invent the automobile. The Daimler commercial was not meant to be taken literally. I believe the answer is Haynes.

2016-04-09 11:40:01 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The Emancipation Proclamation did not free
any slaves. It was a useless document. The south
or CSA was already a counrty with its own laws. Today
it would be like the US telling England you can not have a Queen.

2007-10-17 04:23:40 · answer #5 · answered by harlin42 3 · 0 1

You are completely right about the Emancipation Proclamation only freeing slaves in the states that had succeeded from the US. Why are so many people confused about this?

2007-10-16 20:49:07 · answer #6 · answered by Mir 6 · 0 1

Karl Benz 1885, Gottlieb Daimler 1885 (Rene Panhard 1891 invented automobiles.

Sometimes students get confused. Don't be so hard on them. They are taught these things outside of school.

2007-10-16 20:45:44 · answer #7 · answered by Frosty 7 · 0 0

These three inaccuracies are not taught in school. A great deal of what people repeat they have merely picked up on the street, on the TV, or from the internet.
Now get off your soapbox and learn something you didn't already know...

2007-10-17 03:08:16 · answer #8 · answered by noname 7 · 0 1

Is that what they are taught in the USA. No wonder they have problems dealing with the rest of the world.

2007-10-16 21:07:35 · answer #9 · answered by brainstorm 7 · 0 1

wow..you sure know stuff..but then,so do I.....but I agree with you...Americas education system is broken..too much money is spent on loafers,idiots,discipline cases etc and not enough on the top 30% students who can help our country if they are encouraged to learn and study..leave the others to be welders and dope dealers

2007-10-16 20:13:46 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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