why does our government not seem to support the working family?

Question

unless you are unemployed or a single Mother you don't get any tax breaks? Why should the rest of us struggle When the government won't offer us any incentives. Is it really so strange for a young famiy to want to give it a go. I'm almost ready to vote conservative cause they are the only party to recognise that this is an issue. I'm 36 so I remember Thatcher!!

just to clear this up for the delusional and the Americans. The current Labour government in the UK has been promoting working families practically since it came to power unfortunately it has not set up the means with which to do this. Anyone who watches the news here will know that the family tax credit system is not working because it wasn't set-up properly in the first place. Yes we chose to have children and I would never take that decision back, but I would like to be able to spend time with them without worrying am I going to be able to get enough money to give them a decent christmas. Yes I do remember Thatcher I just feel it is ironic that I grew up despiseing the conservative government I am now considering their arguments cause they seem to be telling me just what I want to here.

Answer 1

You're right. Try sending your kid or yourself to college when you're a working middle class white. Financial Aid is just about impossible.

Answer 2

Exactly!

My partner is working a minimum wage job and I'm at home with our baby son.

Seriously we barely have enough money to live on - he earns £800 per month and once we've paid £480 mortgage and council tax we have hardly anything left. My inlaws who sit on their fat arses all day claiming benefits, get their rent and council tax paid for them and then get dole/incapacity benefit (she's got a "bad back")/Child Tax Credit/DLA etc have much more money than us - they have even had to LEND US money to eat on occasions!

He wants to retrain to get out of minimum wage work but there is no help available to pay his training fees. If he was unemployed however there would be plenty.

We are denied any extra help from the Government as I am not a single mum and he is not unemployed. I'm not even allowed to claim JSA whilst I'm not working because I was a part time worker in 2003 and so "didn't pay enough NI contribs for that year" (I have paid plenty before and since). I can't get Income Support because "he's working over 16 hours a week" (even though he does not earn enough to support both of us).

It really is a ******* joke. What is the point in working?!

Answer 3

Why should I as a single male subsidise everybody else, can I live in a land where nobody is dependent upon me and I dont have to contribute to society in general.

I cannot always afford the amounts I am having to pay in taxes.

I do not want to pay for schools, libraries, tax credits, disability benefits, the army, the navy, subsidised transport for the young and the old, EU farm subsidies, health care, museums, art galleries, the list in almost endless.

I only want to pay for what I use, that being very little, but and this is the most important thing, I realise that to pay for all of these things I need to contribute, that by contributing I am benefiting everyone and therefore at least making sure that everyone has a minimum needed to survive.

None of us want to pay tax, everyone of us does, even those single mothers and the unemployed at some point are paying taxes due to hidden taxation such as excise duties and VAT, and if a tax credit is paid to a single mother so that she works, then she also begins to pay her share as the incentive costs less than her benefit, she becomes a net contributor.

If you really think the Conservatives are the party that would support the 'traditional' family more and therefore choose to vote for them, then fine, that is your choice.

Please do some research first, you claim to remember Thatcher, her policies were resposible for millions of ordinary families loosing there income as their jobs were lost, that included my father, and many others, prematurely ending our eductation as our families could not afford for us to go to college or university, the impact on the 'ordinary' working people was devastating.

Answer 4

I agree its funny when you actually work you get absolutely nothing back. I'm a single working woman i pay my tax Each year yet I'm entitled to nothing and it pisses me off, i can even afford to go to the doctor right now and I'm dying of a flu!!!! however if i quit and signed on i would get free health care free dentistry free education and i know all about waiting lists but hell i cant even afford health care! So why the hell should i work work when the government give every incentive not to work, also a girl i know just got a 3 bedroomed house for free cause she has a baby and is single i could only dream of having my house at 21!!! Im not saying she should not have got one but its unfair and gives out the wrong message.

Answer 5

Tax cuts empower the economy. Conservative value #1.
We would love to make the cuts permanent but you can't pay for national health care with stones. It cost real $$$Imagine paying out approx.55% of your pay to fed income and paying a 30% purchase tax on a new or used car upon purchase.
How about that and a 8% state sales tax and a 8.5% sales tax on every thing you buy.
Thats the benifits of "FREE" Canadian Health Care
Socialism and Liberalism is expensive. exspecialy when you must by the elite $35. million dollar homes in Westchester and a $13. million dollar a year office in Manhatan.

Answer 6

The government doesn't support the working people of America because they are not the ones making them wealthy. Corporate America buys your representatives as soon as they are elected. It's called PAC money. In return, your representative passes bills that give Corporate America generous tax breaks. We, you, the American people are being robbed every time you put gas in your car! Because your representative gets millions in donations,PAC monies, vacations or whatever other means of rewards Corporate America can shove their way. He or she says nothing, does nothing about the price of gas to the consumer. At the same time he gives billions in tax breaks to the oil companies while they post billions in quarterly profits. Doesn't it seem strange that our elected officials, from the president on down, say nothing about the gouging of Americans by the oil companies? This is just one industry, the others are no different. It doesn't matter if your representative is democrat or republican( I include senators too), they are all bought! Unfortunately all your can do is vote.
Please don't vote the same people back into office.

Answer 7

Congress has been taken over by by the extreme left wing within the U.S. They are beholden to them for the funding that ensured their election. In return, their MoveOn.org masters are demanding that these elected officials push for radical, socialistic change. Look at their stance on open borders. Basically, they are offering entitlement/welfare programs in exchange for future votes. It is also their belief that the middle class is powerless to stop them due to the projected sheer numbers that will support their efforts at the polls. However, their arrogance is countered by an angry tide of working class people (as evidenced by low congressional approval ratings). I say "Stay mad, but also stay focused!" It is time for us to oust these political vagrants come election time.
TO XIALOU:You are yet another misinformed, liberal drone. I'll offer you a quick economic lesson. The 15% who represent the most affluent in our country already pay 75% of the total tax bill. By punishing them with yet higher taxes you are also threatening the jobs of many who work in their businesses (both large and small). Logic dictates that they would have to lower expenses/overhead to operate profitably.

Answer 8

i agree, my husband works, and he should get a tax break as he is supporting me. under the goverment now, apparently I do not seem to need anything to exist on...The conservatives at least seem to recognise this.
as for the "single male" supporting others...actually it's my working husbands tax that would be doing the supporting, and why shouldn't we get that support.
this would help the unemployment situation too, because if husbands were encouraged to support their wives who are looking after their children, then its not costing the goverment, unemployment, or child care fees, and its not leaving families strugling.
i know there is a credit for supporting the children, but what are us wives supposed to be living on?
I think that in this society where it is now being recognised that kids are going off the track, they need their mums! mums have a full time job to do, married or single, and its about time married mums were supported like single women in looking after their children.
the goverment needs to look at the ways it can support the security and stability for children's home life so that they can focus on their education without worrying. too many youngsters are depressed these days. isn't it about time something was done about this?
Some mothers have no choice but to be stay at home mothers, ie; disabled children, ... so the attitude that we should all be out working... why can't people understand the need for some mothers to be at home? and the right of choice too...children need their mothers.

Answer 9

Whatever happend to the idea that you (not the state) were responsible for your welfare??? Choosing to get married/have children is fine.....but it's not my responsibility, why should I subsidise your choice of lifestyle? My taxes already help pay for schools,libraries,roads, healthcare etc. I am helping to pay your "child allowance", by the way.
PS. I am a pensioner.

Answer 10

read more.....
open your heart
and STOP watching FOX


I guess because you are new i will add a bit....

The media has confused the middle class into believing that their tax dollars will be used to support the lazy lower class...

this is not true, liberals want the rich to pay more taxes, believing that the rich USED the american people to become wealthy,,, and owe america a debt to help with our poor...

look at the rich in our country... the own everything,,, by rich i mean billionares,,, not people with 100k in the bank....

police the rich from raping us....