Is it true that if you are not a terrorist, you should not mind Bush violating the 4th amendment?

Question

At least this the response neo-cons gave me? With this logic, only terrorists should care about the US Constitution. Are they right?

Answer 1

Why do you think that surveillance of the enemy in a time of war is a violation of the 4th Amendment?

You give no evidence, counselor.

Answer 2

Amendment IV (the Fourth Amendment) to the United States Constitution is one of the provisions included in the Bill of Rights. The Amendment guards against unreasonable searches and seizures, and was originally designed as a response to the controversial writs of assistance (a type of general search warrant), which were a significant factor behind the American Revolution.


If George W. Bush can violate this amendment, then he can violate the entire constitution, and if he can violate the entire constitution then it is not worth the paper it was written on.

So I say no to Bush violating any of the constitution, because it is bigger than any President.

Answer 3

The 4th Amendment should be respected. I don't believe in illegal wiretapping because I have something to hide, I don't want it because we don't need an intrusive govt period. Going against the 4th Amendment is going against what our forefathers fought and died for when liberating the colonies from the British Empire.

Avail- The second amendment doesn't get attacked? Then why are there so many restrictions regarding our second amendment right? Sorry, but the second amendment does get attacked and the ones that end up paying the price are law biding citizens.

Answer 4

ok, who would give Steven C a thumbs down believes Bush is above the people's own rights!!!! If American thinking has became that dangerous, then those people need to be booted out of the country...LOL

"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! "
- Samuel Adams

Answer 5

It’s up to the government’s legal experts, to make sure that bush obeys the Constitution. If the government fails to do that, then they be will be neglecting the longest lasting Constitutional government in history - the USA.

I know that bush has said some ignorant things about the Constitution. Naturally bush’s followers are going to be even more ignorant than bush. Hence they are probably wrong.

Answer 6

The problem with warrantless wiretapping is that since this countries inception, any leverage given to the government to avail our rights has been taken. I defy you to find a time in American history in which the government was given leeway to circumvent the constitution, and only used it as they insinuated they would. Come on guys, the administration is asking us to trust them with this hugely dangerous power? Them? The same people that told us there were WMD's? The same people that asserted al-Qaeda and Saddam were in cahoots? The same people that have lied to us time and time again? Give me a break.

Answer 7

As a republican i'm a huge defender of the 2d modification yet i think of having weapons in situations like this became into off the wall. it is not proper who the president became into, Bush or Obama. I do think of this action is an illustration of ways upset anyone is over this scientific difficulty.

Answer 8

Bush is not violating the 4th amendment. There is no legal requirement for a warrant to "tap" the phone of a foreign national, never has been. Let me ask you a question; The FBI has a warrant for criminal A's phone. Criminal A receives a call from Citizen B. Does the FBI need a warrant for that phone call? NO, They already have a warrant for Criminal A. Why require the NSA to do something that isn't required of the FBI?

EDIT:
4 thumbs down. Do a little research and you'll find that I'm right. If you can prove that I'm wrong, I'll admit it.

Answer 9

Well, I honestly believe that privacy is merely an illusion these days.

I'm much more concerned about the constant attacks on the 2nd Amendment.

To the moron who bleats that I have no idea...explain these quotes:

BILL CLINTON (Former President of the United States)

* "We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans to legitimately own handguns and rifles...that we are unable to think about reality." (USA Today, 11 March 93, pg. 2A)

* "The last time I checked, the Constitution said 'of the people, by the people and for the people'. That's what the Declaration of Independence says." Reuters News Agency ([Editor's note: actually those words are in neither of those documents, but part of The Gettysburg Address by Abraham Lincoln]

* "I don't think the American people are there right now. But with more than 200 million guns in circulation, we've got so much more to do on this issue before we even reach that. I don't think that's an option now. But there are certain kinds of guns that can be banned and a lot of other reasonable regulations that can be imposed." when asked of the possibility of a federal law banning handguns, interview in Rolling Stone magazine, 9 Dec 93, pg. 45

* "We've banned these guns ['assault' weapons] because you don't need an Uzi to go deer hunting, and everyone knows it." Weekly radio address, 15 Nov 97, the Roosevelt Room, the White House

JOSE CERDA (White House official)

* "We are taking the law and bending it as far as we can to capture a whole new class of guns [to ban]" (Los Angeles Times, 22 Oct 97, Mr. Cerda was named as a "White House official who specializes in gun control.")

RONNIE EDLEMAN (Department of Justice, Clinton Administration)
* "The current state of federal law does not recognize that the Second Amendment protects the right of private citizens to possess firearms of any type. Instead, the Second Amendment is deemed to be a collective right belonging to the state and not to an individual. Accordingly, the Second Amendment is interpreted by this administration as prohibiting the federal government from preventing a state government from forming or having a state recognized militia force. With this understanding in mind, the source of citizens' authority to possess a handgun has never been particularly identified in American law." In a letter written on behalf of President Clinton

JANET RENO (U.S. Attorney General)
* "Gun registration is not enough." (Associated Press 10 Dec 93)
* "I've always proposed state licensing...with some federal standards." (ABC's "Good Morning America" 10 Dec 93)
* "[Assault weapons] are used on school yards, at airports, in bank lobbies, on trains, in traffic and in front of the White House. They have no legitimate sporting purpose, and you won't find them in a duck blind or at the Olympics." (The Washington Times, 22 March 96, A4)
* "What we have got to do is make sure that before a person possesses a gun, they have exhibited by test that they know how to safely and lawfully use the weapon and by experience that they are capable of doing that." (Associated Press, 29 Mar 99)

JOYCELYN ELDERS (Former U.S. Surgeon General) ...on gun ownership
* "I want to make it as hard as possible. Gun owners would have to be evaluated by how they scored on written and firing tests, and have to pass the tests in order to own a gun. And I would tax the guns, bullets and the license itself very heavily." (Mother Jones magazine, Jan/Feb '94)

Need more, Skippy? I got plenty.

Oh, and Skippy? I have NEVER been a liberal, therefore I am NOT a "neocon". Idiot.

Answer 10

Now we all know neo-cons don't make sense.

If Bush was trying to do this nonsense back when our country was being established, he would have been shot or hung for treason on the white house lawn.