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there is an word like "those two celebrities have a quality that most works say is essential to being a good boss."it is "say is" in this sentence.the "say is" have "a form of "verb+verb".if so,as i known,i can't understand this sentence.if not so,can first sentences changes into "different sentences"? like this,"those two celebrities have a quality that most workers say (that/how/which
/where/etc)is essential to being a good boss"

2007-10-16 06:57:02 · 5 answers · asked by dreams come true. 1 in Education & Reference Words & Wordplay

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I am not 100% sure what your question is but the "say is" is a form of an expression that people often use. For example:" A lot of florists say it is better to plant flowers in the spring." It is not directly meaning that they always say it is better to plant in spring but rather that it's a good idea. It's kind of confusing I know but the English language as a whole is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack, if it's not your first language. Let me know if this helped!

2007-10-16 07:15:48 · answer #1 · answered by Cherise 2 · 0 0

From the context of your question, I assume you are not a native speaker. Your question is complicated, and I think you're getting close to an answer. In this sentence, "works" refers to books or articles (presumably referring to workplace dynamics). So if you keep in mind that this "works" is a noun, not a verb, the rest makes more sense.

Let's simplify- "Those two celebrities have a quality that is essential to being a good boss" is a good, understandable sentence. But the writer wanted to add something about "quality" - what kind of quality? Well, it's a quality that most works (books/articles) say the boss needs. This quality is essential. So the clause becomes "... most works say is essential ..."

Your question gives me an indication of the way you're learning English- you cite "verb + verb" as a form of construction. Learning grammar by relating one word to the next word has limits. In this case, "verb + verb" can't be identified simply, like "has + eaten" or "is + seated" can.

Try this sequence- "Most works say this quality is essential to being a good boss. Those celebrities have that quality." These two sentences mean the same as the one sentence you asked about. (Caution: Opinion Alert!) In my opinion, some writers try to show the reader how well-educated they are by writing complex sentences. In this case, the writer could have used the two sentences I just gave you, but chose to combine the two into one sentence, thereby letting you (the reader) know how well-educated he (the writer) can write. Complexity isn't always erudition.

If you have the opportunity, you may find a good text on "transformational grammar," but the concepts are difficult and involve linguistics, psychology and culture. Remember my earlier reference to transformational grammar? Well, a high-zoot resource, wikipedia has this entry. It's a good place to start. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformational_grammar

2007-10-16 14:34:13 · answer #2 · answered by going_for_baroque 7 · 0 0

This problem I say is part of the extreme misuse by unscientific speakers and writers of English which involves putting out very incomplete sentences and also misusing the verb "is".
First of all works don't "say" anything; people say things...This is a colloquial use of the word say where the words "claim" or "assert" would be better. Then you have to use wo sentences to describe the reality situation they refer to. Go back to the reality.
Sentence 1. Writers of works concerning the topic "what quality is necessary to a person being a good "boss" or idea-level leader have named one such quality as being an essential one."
Sentence 2.The two celebrities that you just mentioned seem to have that quality.

This is the complete but briefest statement of the entire picture needed to be expressed in the example you supplied.
The sentence you quoted above is incomplete; it would have to follow a statement by another speaker who had said that in his opinion two particular celebrities he or she named both possessed a particular quality in unusual degree or strength, or else one which few persons posses at all.
Then the sentence you supplied could follow that statement.
It's not as good as the two sentences I presented; but the three sentences would sort of get the whole idea across.

Now what bothered you was the use of the to be verb in the present tense "is" form with another verb, to say.
In English, uses of the to be verb, as an indicator of time--when something was done, i being done, will be done, was once done, etc. is common and architecturally useful.
The problem here is that the misuse of the colloquial say and the complicated "is essential to being" phrase are both needlessly confusing--there are three verb forms.

Look at my two sentences; to verb is attached to another.
But in English the use of the verb to be to say, "he is an actor" is confusing anyhow. Bill Russell once grew tired of people saying, "You're Bill Russell the basketball player!" So he told them, "No, I'm Bill Russell the man--I play basketball!"
It's complex but the best thing is to avoid using more than one verb along with the verb "to be".
"I like to play golf,so that I can enjoy myself while doing exercise"is better than saying something huge such as,
"I like playing golf which I enjoy doing as exercise"--with its four verbs clumsily strung together.
I hope that this help you. Go back to reality. Try to get the picture clear and complete in your mind of what has to be said so tht someone--in the future in writing or at present by speech--will be given the information he needs in the right sequence so he can understand the main point you wanted to tell him.

2007-10-16 15:35:09 · answer #3 · answered by Robert David M 7 · 0 0

my best guess is punctuality and a good work ethic

2007-10-16 14:12:44 · answer #4 · answered by shirleycharity 1 · 0 0

i can't understand =PP
sozsozsoz!!

2007-10-16 14:11:24 · answer #5 · answered by samy 3 · 0 0

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