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I’m not an expert on baseball, but I heard that Dice-K is supposed to be the best pitcher for his generation in Japan and the most expensive Japanese baseball player who came to MLB ($100/5 years including negotiation fee.). After watching his pitching last night (and the whole season ERA4.4), I don’t think he is better than Hideo Nomo at his prime. Or am I missing something? (Although much better than Igawa) RedSox should've used $100M to get a Cy Young winner instead.

2007-10-16 06:05:06 · 13 answers · asked by rap1zip1 2 in Sports Baseball

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Neither are destined for Cooperstown if that's what you mean. If either are supposed to be the cream of the crop from the Japanese league all it tells me is that Japan produces nothing more than double or triple A caliber ball players.

Last I heard minor leaguers usually don't make multi million dollar contracts. Boston make two huge mistakes during the off season. They wasted $102M on Dice-K and another $70M on JD (I'll never play in Philadelphia) Drew.

One thing is for sure Nomo is at least as good as Dice-K and that's not saying a whole lot!!

2007-10-16 06:31:40 · answer #1 · answered by The Mick 7 7 · 6 1

While it is true that Nomo 13-6 and 2.54 had a better first year than Dice-K 15-12 and 4.40 it is way to early to take that quantum leap and say that Nomo is the better of the two. Pitching is like a Marathon and not a sprint, it will take a few more years for him to settle in so we can all see just how good he is. While he did not have a great first year, I saw enough of what he can do to come to the conclusion that he certainly does have talent and better years should be ahead. Remember, "cream always rises to the top".

2007-10-16 06:17:21 · answer #2 · answered by Frizzer 7 · 0 1

Why study him to Nomo? The purple Sox were given Nomo from the Dodgers as a veteran and were given a robust season out of him. He pitched a no hitter in 2000 or 2001. Matsuzaka remains a artwork in progression. He were given countless strike outs, yet continually seems to have an inning at the same time as he loses his controls and places on runners via walks and poorly placed pitches. he will be operating with the purple Sox crew. i'm particular that they are nowhere writing him off yet.

2016-10-21 06:32:09 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

They already have a Cy Young winner. Dice-K was hyped as being the best. Maybe in a different ball park he would be a bigger stud. He is not bad. He has never pitched this much before. You have to remember this is his first year here in a country that speaks english not japanees. He started out the season awesome, but he hasnt made the adjustments that he has needed to be dominant in the second half. Give him another season or two. I think he will be worth the money. Dont forget his contract is still smaller than Barry Zito's. BOMB!

2007-10-16 06:21:07 · answer #4 · answered by josh_huth 3 · 1 1

Dice-K hit the MLB rookie wall. As teams see you another time and you add more pitches/innings to your season, rookie pitchers tend to struggle at the end of the season. This is what's happening to Dice-K. I think we have to temper our opinions about him this postseason. If he's still doing this next postseason, we'll have to question the investment.

I agree $100 million for the signing fee and contract is way too much... It's like European soccer with transfer fees...

But is Dice-K a better investment than Barry Zito for the Giants signed for 7 years/$120 million? I think so... Especially when you count the worth of Dice-K's marketability in Japan.

2007-10-16 06:20:24 · answer #5 · answered by Frederick S 4 · 0 1

His record would be well below .500 had the Red Sox bats not bailed him out in numerous games.

As for Nomo, he was 13-6 with 236 k's, and won the NL rookie of the year in 1995. Having said that, I would say Nomo was actually better.

The Sox took a gamble and it's safe to say it didn't pay off.

2007-10-16 06:20:09 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Like most big market teams, the Red Sox just went w/ the hype. He might have been a sensation in Japan but they should have known that this didn't translate into success in the States. It's a completely different playing field in the States so these foreing players should be viewed on a curve.

2007-10-16 06:16:54 · answer #7 · answered by NotoriousOne 3 · 1 1

I've been a red sox fan since I was a kid ( seventies) and I can say I want Dieske gone. He would be an excellent CLOSER but he's not meant to be a starter. He wears out to easy and loads the bases unecessarily. He doesn't finesse with the weapons he's got. If he could learn to do this and build his stamina he'd be worth another year.

2007-10-16 06:14:25 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I think he will get better. He has 6 pitches that he can throw for strikes, with movement and velocity. His durability and stamina are the problem. He is used to more rest and shorter outings. I believe he will be better next year. Also, he did win 16 games i believe, which isn't all that bad.

2007-10-16 06:28:19 · answer #9 · answered by Brandon M 4 · 0 1

Yeah, it would be nice if a team could just know who will win the Cy Young and pay him $100 million to play for them.

2007-10-16 06:11:29 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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