G&WS: Could you help me understand this comment?

Question

Before hand: LycraSpandex, I don't mean any lack of respect, it is just that this comment really bewilders me:

"To me, being a in an area with a lot of feminists would be like being Jewish and being in an area around a lot of Nazis"

HOW could someone compare THIS???

I am completely at a loss. I haven't heard of feminists sending men to concentration camps!!

What the hell is going on ?????

I don't know...this category makes me feel that humans have no hope as long as people blame and talk like this.

Oh Kendrick it doesn't matter what I say, for six months you disagree. From my point of view it seems you always misread my messages, but it is is ok, you have your own glasses...and yes I always feel you angry at me...nevertheless peace.. I have nothing against you, and never did...oh whatever...I am tired

Answer 1

Blame it on Rush.

Conservatives tend to love the throw-back to ww2 era in America when the country united against the oppressive tyrant, and have been trying to associate every social trend since to that time. i.e. anti-red fights against communism in Korea, Cuba, Russia, Vite Nam, etc. Associating any trend that didn't comply with their idea of democracy as 'Nazi', in an attempt to throw-back to the 'good-ole-days' in which the entire counrty was united against evil oppression.

Problem is the oppressions since do not measure up, and in some cases, such as feminism, they do not even exist.

Nazi is a highly charged word as a result and it is a simplistic bully-tactic to associate any group with that hateful group, regardless of the lack of similarities in ideology.

They miss the times when society thought similarly, (even though most now were not even alive to experience it) and have ever since been trying to bring back the time when everyone got along. Albiet ironically without a willingness to change a single belief themselves.

In essence, why are feminists called feminazis? because "They" said so. Nothing more. Bully tactic rhetoric, ignore it.

Answer 2

I come right here because of the fact i desire to locate some questions that i'm attracted to answering. i don't be stricken by loss of male interest, on the choice, now and lower back i'm getting greater interest from my husband than i in my opinion prefer.

Answer 3

Hahaha.

There are plenty of people in the world who, upon disagreeing with a group of people, will attempt to discredit that group by comparing them to Nazis or the KKK. It happens all the time, and you see it everywhere.

It's pretty idiotic, really. YES there have been injustices done to men but the idea that women might go out killing men ignores some pretty basic ideas:

1. Men are necessary to propagate the species.

2. Women enjoy having sex with men.

3. Men are interesting, useful beings and the vast majority of women know this.

No one but an idiot would go around slaughtering men. Feminists may be many things, but we're not idiots.

Answer 4

You've hit on an interesting point...and something that has become clearer and clearer to me over the past couple of weeks. It would seem that 'the feminists' have become all but silent in this forum, yet 'the anti-feminists' continue with their rants and hate speech. The accusations are non-stop, and yet, really - there hasn't been anything to accuse of late. It seems very much like one person yelling into the wind...

It would seem that many of the men here are sounding more and more like the radical feminists that they so desperately seem to hate...crying "oh poor us". They spend countless hours blaming women for disparity in family court and the present state of our society.

I guess that equity is an impossible dream...as once one group achieves a little more of the pie, the other side has to complain about the piece they've lost. Sigh...

Answer 5

It's their (meaning the people who make this sort of statement) tendency to see all feminists in the light of something that one particularly stupid person said. So Andrea Dworkin becomes representative of all feminist intellectuals, and some woman who maims or murders a man and says he abused her becomes representative of all women, empowered by feminism.

Nazi references are cheesy and immature at any level. In all fairness, a lot of liberals and feminists have been guilty of this sort of thing though, too. It's too often that anyone who disagrees with us is casually labeled a racist, or a sexist, or a homophobe, or even compared to a Nazi.

Lycra is being an ignoramus beyond belief, but he has a lot of company.

Answer 6

I take it you haven't heard of Godwin's law, the invocation of which directly speaks to this question.

Godwin's law is often cited in online discussions as a caution against the use of inflammatory rhetoric or exaggerated comparisons.

The rule does not make any statement as to whether any particular reference or comparison to Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that one arising is increasingly probable. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact. Although in one of its early forms Godwin's law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions, the law is now applied to any threaded online discussion: electronic mailing lists, message boards, chat rooms, and more recently blog comment threads and wiki talk pages.

There is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.

Peace.

Answer 7

Nazi comparisons are especially offensive to me, since my grandmother is a Holocaust survivor. Feminists never wanted to wipe out an entire segment of the population. Maybe some radical misandrists did, but not feminists. I ask that people think of who might be reading their comments when they bring up Nazism.

Answer 8

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. If one acts like a Nazi, they will be compared to Nazis.

There are many parallels of Nazism to feminism. Compare early Nazism to modern feminism such as, the Nazis didn't just start killing Jews (and others) but rather by means of lies, half-truths and innuendo mandated special laws that furthered the aims of Nazism *exactly* as feminism is towards anything male today.

Much like Gentiles were favored in politics, women are being favored today in America. Check any state's website for proof that women are being favored by things like "women's business" assistance; VAWA (and other special laws) protecting the 'favored class' which is women; the rulings of criminal and civil court that are obvious in the way they favor women and vilify men, selective service which means that women are granted the same rights as men but without the same responsibility, health care research, reproductive rights for women only, using unfounded claims of past abuse as an excuse for premeditated murder to allow women (only) to commit homicide, etc.

With such anti-male feminists as Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Harry Reid, John Kerry, Edward Kennedy and many others., the rise of anti-male bigotry is paralleling the rise of Nazism in pre-war Germany almost exactly. The main difference is that it is taking longer in the US because of the way the government is established that has stood in the way of feminism's "final solution".

Notice also that many feminists say "women" when they mean "feminists". They are NOT the same by any stretch of the imagination. Many women are wonderful, no feminsts are.

Answer 9

Feminists are nowhere even close ideologically speaking or otherwise to Nazis. The comparison shows a total lack of understanding and education. In fact, the idea of feminism comes from a standpoint that all people are created equal, and should have the same opportunities and liberties. Nazism is based on the idea that some people are superior to others, and the goal being to eliminate those who are inferior. Two rather diametrical ideas, in my opinion. I'm sick and tired of hearing that feminism is a female superiority movement. It never has been, and it still isn't. Those who believe it is are sadly mistaken. It's beyond insulting to hear feminism compared to Nazism.

Celtish: No disrespect intended, but the notion that feminists secretly WANT to send men or antis to concentration camps is utterly and totally ridiculous.

Answer 10

It just sounds like a hateful anti-feminist who has some pschycological problems so that they now hate women (but are really just afraid of us) and like to try and degrade us and, in sexist terms, "put women in our place" just because they are afraid they might lose their power, or cant get a date, or still live with their mother. thats the only answer I can think of as to why someone would say such a disgusting thing. Women deserve equality and they just cant handle it. Its sick, and its exactly the same kind of mentality that causes all wars and killing. and it makes me so angry that someone could really think that they are soo much better than someone just becuase of there gender, if anything at all!!!! people just dont get that sexism is just as bad, and even more common that racisism (which is horrible too) and they both need to be eliminated, actually, all hate MUST be Eradicated......I fear what might happen next, especially when it still exists.

Answer 11

His comparison was COMPLETELY over the line.

Much closer would be being a black or a Jewish man at a previously all-WASP country club.

Violence is highly unlikely.

But glares, whispers, and being judged for stepping out of line in any way by people waiting to see you confirm their suspicions are to be anticipated.

And some members, many, perhaps even most, may be welcoming. One cannot assume they'll ALL be unwelcoming.

EDIT

And you might even end up making some good friends!