How much longer will feminist organizations continue to deny the inevitable equality that will come to be?

Question

Men will get equal rights to their children and shared parenting is the wave of the future and the most logical choice is automatic shared parenting by law.
PAS will be officially a real syndrome that is recognized dispite feminist bribery to silence the truth about mothers brain washing their children.
Women will be prosecuted and treated as a man would if she murders her husband and can't blame her hormones.
Women will be prosecuted for lying about being raped when it is a proven fact she was not.
I just wonder what will happen to the radical feminists when this happends. The moderates will change their stance to equalist and the radicals will probably go on a killing spree.

tailleur... : OK let me put it in terms you mgiht understand: All men are abusers and rapists who have no right to their children and women don't need men so lets all go be lesbians.

drusilla... : I would be stupid if I acted like men have not done that and are not doing that but some of your assertions are not correct. Most men don't leave their children, they are taken from them.

Answer 1

Their own Biases and perspectives have prevented them from seeing the whole picture and how the society can and does negatively affect both men and women in different ways. Not all of them are like this but rather the extremists.

To the lady above me: Are we really showing AUDACITY? Your intelligence or lack there of was shown in that simple misspelling. Try to keep intelligence and and misspellings out of the same sentence.

To Drus below me:

1) Women are physically and verbally abusive as well. The difference? The Laws and our Courts protect women to a greater degree. And men are less likely to report abuse. Men are even less likely to report sexual harassment and even rape. Take a second and ponder that. It's not that it doesn't happen it's just that it's not reported.
2) Women leave their kids on doorsteps, drown their own kids, and even drop the kids off at dad's never to return, child support? I think not.
3) Did you really say maybe men will stop prostituting women? haha are you serious? The choice was with the woman and you try to play it off on a man? There's a reason it's the oldest profession, there's SUPPLY and DEMAND.
4) Maybe women will stop marrying for money and actually earn the money instead of mooching off someone else.
5) Maybe in those thousands of words you women speak a day you'll actually get to at least one point, wow.

Squig- You argue about something you know nothing about. You claim to be able to count on one hand the number of people falsely convicted of rape. Do you mean the people's who's convictions were overturned? This has no clear indication of the total population and your insinuation is not only a stretch but down right moronic. Women are more likely to get away with crimes. (And could this not skew the statistics in overall crime percentages? Hell yes it can) And for the SAME crimes women on average get less punishment. It has been found that women don't react like men on an anger whim instead they are careful and calculated and more passive aggressive. They are less likely to shoot their cheating husband than to poison him.

Answer 2

Well, I think it's great if laws were changed to allow men to have equal rights in parenting issues.
As for abusive parents, male/female, it doesn't matter, the law shouldn't be favorable for one parent over another. If a father has done wrong, then deny access, if it's the mother, deny access, it's not so hard. I'm not going to be biased as far as gender goes.
Doesn't matter with gender, if anyone murders someone else(without going into all the what-ifs?) then the law should treat both men and women equally.
Am more than happy for women who lie about being raped or molested, being charged. Why? Because those silly women not only ruin a man's life, but they make it harder for the genuine victims. There have been women caught out for doing this and now the genuine victims are given the third degree and not believed when they do decide to take action.(One of two reasons why I didn't go through with legal action against my father who molested me, and that royally pisses me off)
Excuse me for being naive though, what is 'PAS'?
I haven't heard of that term before.

Answer 3

No dad should ever be denied the right to see his own children; for those who have been attributed to grievious crimes such as molestation let the law take care of that, not a bunch of whining women who only seek out revenge. Yes, revenge that's what this is all about. I am a woman myself and we are well known for our tactics on revenge, the back-biting, the gossip; things that a man will hardly spend a shilling on.
Want to know further of what I think. I do hope that the men get back what it rightfully theirs, cause if it did not so happen they gave themselves to women, especially those who are whining those children would not have been created. I, myself call it a grievious shame unto myself were I to do that, and my ex was the worst dad there was, he didn't even know how to treat kids. Still, he saw our son.

Answer 4

Amen brother Joe. These things will happen. We are just one feminized law away just one more female atrocity. Let the feminists here keep up their belittling remarks like the ones made by the posters above mine. Let them smirk and feel self satisfied and let them ignore us just a little longer. Feminists are their own worst enemy. When they make remarks like Radicals are one kind of feminist and they are another. That may be true but as long as they defend feminism as a whole they defend the radicals too and that makes them part of the problem. Let the feminists sleep soundly tonight wrapped in their false victories and their comfortable lies. Who knows what morning will bring? I do and it ain''t going to be what the feminists want but it will be what is right.

Answer 5

Celtish & Shivers,

PAS

Parental Alienation Syndrome.

When the custodial parent poisons the attitude of the child toward the none-custodial parent, usually the Father.

Answer 6

What if the men don't want equal custody of their children but are only fighting for them because they want to get back at their ex-wives? What about the men who do win custody and then turn their children over to their mothers or other female relatives to raise? How about pregnant women who are killed by their husbands or boyfriends? How about in cases of couples getting divorced, the mother or the children go missing? These things happen all the time. Why don't you talk about them?

Answer 7

Maybe men will stop beating their wives or girlfriends or children, too. Maybe men will stop sexually assaulting women. Maybe university officials and professors will stop saying women should avoid mathematics, science and engineering. Maybe women will be paid at parity to men. Maybe men will stop being deadbeat dads and leaving their kids without any money to support them. Maybe men will stop prostituting women, and maybe men will take it as perfectly okay to have a female boss, or a wife who makes more money than he does, or think it's okay to split up all the housework and the parenting duties between both parents.

I understand, to jay k, that you may disagree with what I have to say - but I have a few responses.

1. Males don't report rape. That's true - but 86% female/14% male ratio seems a bit high to attribute solely to under-reporting males. Also, the majority of male victims are raped by other males. When the males were assaulted by female victims, male enforcement officers were the least likely to sympathize with the victim, with half of the officers characterizing the victim as enjoying the assault. (StatsCan; Mills, 1995; Smith, Pine & Hawley, 1988)
2. I don't know what criminal child abuse has to do with child support payments. Deadbeat dads are disgusting. Deadbeat moms are disgusting. There's no reason, whatsoever, to expect only one parent to provide the necessities of life.
3. I'm certainly not unbiased when it comes to this - but I firmly believe that people go into prostitution because they come from abusive families, usually sexually abusive, drop out of school, and end up with some boyfriend who beats the **** out of them if they don't turn tricks. I've had friends that became prostitutes - they didn't do it because they saw it as a quick buck, they had been abused, and their bodies had become nothing more than someTHING to sell. The clients and friends I've had who have worked in this industry have been some of the most mentally ill, abused people I have ever met. I can never, ever support legalizing prostitution after a) working on a case where a woman had turned to prostitution after being sexually assaulted so badly that she could never have children, and b) where my client had run away from a molesting stepfather at age 16 and couldn't find any other job because she was homeless. I think Sweden may have the best solution, where prostitutes are given a chance at job training and shelter when they're caught by police, rather than being charged - and their program seems to have been fairly successful.
4. It's a bit difficult for women to find men who are paid equally when we're only paid 77 cents to every man's 1.00. And honestly, I've had enough friends that snicker at my brother acting as house-husband to know that a heck of a lot of guys would rather have the gold-digger.
5. Men talk just as much as women. Don't use chauvinistic myths to support an argument - it just makes you look childish. (Pennebaker, 2007)

The worst of any group are its most radical elements. A feminist and a man-hating nutcase are not one and the same, even if they may both call themselves feminists

Answer 8

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. People who deliberately lie for their own ends should be properly prosecuted and punished regardless of their sex.

(I don't know what PAS is, either.)

Answer 9

Your assumptions are so wrong that I almost didn't bother to answer this question. Are thousands and thousands of men raped and brutalized every year? I could count on the fingers of one hand the number of rape cases I have heard of where a man went to prison unjustly for rape. Yes, it has happened, but rarely. I think women who falsely accuse someone for any crime should suffer the consequences of the law. But, so many more men kill their wives and girlfriends and exes compared to the number of women who kill that you couldn't even begin to compare the two figures. How many women serial killers have you heard of? How many women rapists? How many women beat their partners to death out of anger? How many men do you hear of that are physical abused by their wives every day? How many women do you hear of who confront their exes at their place of employment, in their homes, etc., and shoot them to death because they dared to leave them? The ratios are so lopsided. If women were considered a minority race, what we suffer at the hands of men would be called racial genocide. As far as father's rights are concerned, laws are changing for fathers, and I think they should. I have seen fathers who were much better parents than the mothers of their children are. But, please spare me the self-pity. I have been on the receiving end- and men don't have to put up with half of what women put up with.

I speak plenty of what I know about. My first husband physically abused me to the point of knocking me out by smashing my head into a wall. I had to steal our rent money to run away from him to a city where I knew no one, with my baby. My daughter was raped by a man who held a pillow over her face until she almost died. And then, he asked her what she was crying about. "You're still alive, aren't you"? He's now serving 16 life sentences for 16 rapes and beatings in San Diego. Look it up. It happened in 1990. He was the wedding dress rapist, and a former Navy commander.

Answer 10

I and all the other feminists here will welcome changes like that with open arms. If certain feminists organizations won't, I will not associate myself with them.