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okay, me and my friend are arguing about who invented spagetti... was it the italians or the chinese...but i don't just want an answer i nedd proof of who invented it.. please help...

2007-10-15 09:56:47 · 45 answers · asked by Anonymous in Education & Reference Trivia

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The Arabs and Pasta
The first certain record of noodles cooked by boiling is in the Jerusalem Talmud, written in Aramaic in the 5th century AD. The word used for the noodles was itriyah. In Arabic references this word stands for the dried noodles purchased from a vendor, rather than homemade noodles which would have been fresh. Dried noodles are portable, while fresh must be eaten immediately. More than likely, pasta was introduced during the Arab conquests of Sicily, carried in as a dry staple. The Arab geographer, Al Idrisi wrote that a flour-based product in the shape of strings was produced in Palermo, then an Arab colony.

Some historians think the Sicilian word "maccaruni" which translates as "made into a dough by force" is the origin of our word, macaroni. Anyone who has kneaded durum wheat knows that force is necessary.

2007-10-15 10:00:26 · answer #1 · answered by jezbnme 6 · 0 0

While many believe that spaghetti (or even pasta in some accounts) originated in China (where long thin noodles have a lengthy history), some now assert that the reading of a lost Marco Polo manuscript which lead to this belief, was in fact an inaccurate Latin translation. Historically people in Italy ate pasta in the form of gnocchi-like dumplings - 'pasta fresca' eaten as soon as it was prepared. It has now been asserted that the Arabs who populated Southern Italy (around the 12th Century) were the first to develop the innovation of working pasta from grain into thin long forms, capable of being dried out and stored for months or years prior to consumption (see Peter Robb's Midnight in Sicily pp 94-96 for details).

2007-10-15 10:00:58 · answer #2 · answered by heatishellinflorida 2 · 0 0

While many believe that spaghetti (or even pasta in some accounts) originated in China (where long thin noodles have a lengthy history), some now assert that the reading of a lost Marco Polo manuscript which lead to this belief, was in fact an inaccurate Latin translation. Historically people in Italy ate pasta in the form of gnocchi-like dumplings - 'pasta fresca' eaten as soon as it was prepared. It has now been asserted that the Arabs who populated Southern Italy (around the 12th Century) were the first to develop the innovation of working pasta from grain into thin long forms, capable of being dried out and stored for months or years prior to consumption (see Peter Robb's Midnight in Sicily pp 94-96 for details).

2007-10-15 10:00:50 · answer #3 · answered by andy in greece 6 · 0 0

While many believe that spaghetti (or even pasta in some accounts) originated in China (where long thin noodles have a lengthy history), some now assert that the reading of a lost Marco Polo manuscript which lead to this belief, was in fact an inaccurate Latin translation. Historically people in Italy ate pasta in the form of gnocchi-like dumplings - 'pasta fresca' eaten as soon as it was prepared. It has now been asserted that the Arabs who populated Southern Italy (around the 12th Century) were the first to develop the innovation of working pasta from grain into thin long forms, capable of being dried out and stored for months or years prior to consumption (see Peter Robb's Midnight in Sicily pp 94-96 for details).


Read this link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti#Origins

2007-10-15 10:00:03 · answer #4 · answered by John 4 · 0 0

Popular history says that it was invented in China, and that Marco Polo brought the knowledge of this food to Venice. The spaghetti Polo encountered (and presumably tasted) in the far east was made from either rice flour or hard wheat flour (long noodles made from both grains exist in eastern cookery). It is generally accepted that the variety of durum wheat known in Sicily during the Middle Ages was, like lemons and oranges, introduced by the Arabs. And that brings us to the pivotal part of the story.

2007-10-15 11:07:17 · answer #5 · answered by TootsiePop 3 · 0 0

The story goes Marco Polo when on expeditions saw the Chinese eating noodles made from rice or other grains, he took the idea back and the Italians invented pasta, using local ingredients.

2007-10-15 10:01:04 · answer #6 · answered by Limestoner62 6 · 0 0

Sicily
http://www.bestofsicily.com/mag/art73.htm

2007-10-15 10:03:07 · answer #7 · answered by Jason 6 · 0 1

Noodles are a worldwide dish common to many cultures, but they are made various ways from various materials.

If you mean spaghetti, the long straight wheat noodle, served with marinara sauce, then that is most certainly not a Chinese invention.

If you mean noodles served as a meal regardless of the rest of the recipe or the ingredients the noodle itself is made from,. then I think you wil not find any references to it in the West that predate visits to the East.

But there probably don't exist any first hand sources that say "I brought noodles from here to there and no one else did before!"

There might be a lot of patents related to relatively recent methods of manufacturing spachetti though - you could search for those at uspto.gov IIRC.

2007-10-15 10:03:23 · answer #8 · answered by Barry C 6 · 0 0

In 1154, the ruler of Sicily was King Roger II. King Roger II commissioned a court geographer and chronicler named Abu Abdullah Mohammed al Edrisi to travel and study Sicily and other regions such as Spain and Palermo. In his finished book on his adventures, entitled The Book of Roger, a form of spaghetti is mentioned. In the Sicilian town of Trabia, wheat pasta formed into large strands was not just eaten but shipped to other regions. The thin pasta is now called vermicelli which translates to “thin worms”, a reference to the shape. Early pasta was stuffed with spices and meats and inclusive to the upper class.

2007-10-15 10:01:37 · answer #9 · answered by Becca 2 · 0 0

The Italians invented spaghetti. The chinese invented the first pasta although they called it noodles. The chinese invented the oldest form of pasta 4000 years ago. hey invented pasta first.

2007-10-15 10:01:57 · answer #10 · answered by Monkey Man 3 · 0 0

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