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A weapon to condemn homosexuality. Isn't it kind of ironic that claiming to love a guy is reason to marginalize the gay community?

2007-10-15 03:45:53 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender

Jessky Loves: I have read the old testament and the part where God destroys Soddom was NOT about sexuality. You have to read the entire thing start to finish to understand the Soddom was destroyed because they were nasty, vile, inhospitable people. They'd starve strangers then rob them. They'd kill people by tying them up, hanging off a wall and smear them with honey to attract bees and sting them to death, they'd cut the limbs off of people too tall to fit the bed....but unfortunately many professed Christians either have a reading comprehension problem or just can't read.

2007-10-15 04:07:47 · update #1

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Yes, not only is is ironic, but hypocritical as well.
This guy they profess to love so much was about equality, unconditional love, peace, inclusion, acceptance and tolerance.
But those who claim to love Him only spread hate, anger, jealousy, lies, war and intolerance.

I don't get it really.
I am a person of faith, but I stop short of calling myself a "Christian" because the Christian community and it's track record of being very un-Christian-like.

2007-10-15 03:51:02 · answer #1 · answered by DEATH 7 · 2 0

Uhm, ever read the old testement,
read in genesis about the part where God destroys SODOM

(hint - the MEN almost banging down Lot's door to "know" (in the bible when ever someone knows someone else a baby comes 9 months later)
the angels

just saying, I don't think it's right for any human to condemn gays or anyone else,
God will condemn whoever he sees fit to be condemned, christians can tell the gays kindly that they are against God and why but they should not do any more than that (not an absolute statement, also this is an opinion)

2007-10-15 10:56:00 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

The same way people use Jesus as a weapon to justify their position.

Here is my take from reading the Bible.
Yes homosexuality is a sin.
Guess what there is whole host of sins in the Bible and I have to be prefect in order to put down someone for their sins. Since I haven't made it to prefect yet I can't say to someone they are damn for being homosexuals. I have too much work on myself before I can do that.

I do however have problem telling me homosexality is not a sin. There I draw the line. You have cross over into forcing your ideas of right and wrong on me.

I do marginalize anyone because of who they decide to sleep.
I don't have problem with homosexauls adopting kids as long as they are good parents.
I don't have problem with homosexauls going into civil unions.

I do have friends that are homosexuals and I treat them like everyone else with love and respect.

We are task with working our own salvation.
So we may disagree about what is a sin or not a sin. We may disagree about lots of things.
I think it is wrong to bring in Jesus into the argument to prove our point.

The point is not if G-d is on our side but if we are on G-d's side. That is a private matter we need to work on.

2007-10-15 11:07:54 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Love is blind which is why 'jesus' and 'god' are able to love everyone. It doesnt matter to them whether you live an alternative life style. So the Christians who bash and are prejudice, are the ones more likely to go to 'hell' because of the way they feel they are defending their religion.
I mean in the 'lords' name they hate discriminate and judge. But what would jesus do?

2007-10-15 11:05:18 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Oddly enough these peple lean primarily on the old testament and the writings of that famous old testament scholar, Paul. While professing to follow Christ they evidence very little of this in their dealings with those whom they disagree.

2007-10-15 10:50:15 · answer #5 · answered by toff 6 · 2 0

no i think people vote and make laws according to what they believe is right . there is nothing wrong in this .

a law is basically around 10 commandments .. the laws are written to reflect the appropriate way we want an oranized society to live.

if someoen feels /thinks strongly with their heart /their intention /m otive should be considered

2007-10-15 11:02:06 · answer #6 · answered by Mildred S 6 · 1 0

not just christians do it. Muslims use it as ploy to publicly persecute gays and kill them. Christians are violent towards gays, but, not even as close as to how vicious and vile Islam is towards them. In Iran (no gays) Haha! They hang them publicly, stone them, and publicly execute them. That is Islamic Law.

All religions are evil and used as a tool to cause havoc, destroy lives, demean women, start wars, and kill.

2007-10-15 10:48:47 · answer #7 · answered by Kyle 4 Ty (Sparkles can watch) 2 · 1 0

First and foremost, homosexuality, in and of itself, is not a sin. The Bible does not condemn those who have a natural attraction to the same sex. What the Bible does condemn is certain homosexual (and heterosexual) acts. As far as homosexuals acts go, those condemned are mainly about temple prostitution (something that really doesn't happen today).

The interpretations we have of the Bible today have taken some words and translated them in ways that was never meant in the orginal Greek and Hebrew. For example:

I Corinthians 6:9

King James Version:

9...Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [malakoi], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [arsenokoitai], 10 Nor thieves..., shall inherit the kingdom of God.

New International Version

9...Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes [malakoi] nor homosexual offenders [arsenokoitai] 10 nor thieves...will inherit the kingdom of God.

Revised Standard Version--1952 edition:

9...Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals [malakoi and arsenokoitai], 10 nor thieves..., will inherit the kingdom of God.

Revised Standard Version--1971 edition:

9...Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts [malakoi and arsenokoitai], 10 nor thieves..., will inherit the kingdom of God.

A comparison of how the two Greek words are translated in the different versions shows that translations often, unfortunately, become the interpretations of the translators. In I Cor. 6:9 Paul lists the types of persons who will be excluded from the kingdom of God and for some he uses the Greek words malakoi and arsenokoitai. KJ translates the first "effeminate," a word that has no necessary connection with homosexuals. The NIV translates the first "male prostitutes" and the second, "homosexual offenders". The RSV in its first edition of 1952 translated both words by the single term, "homosexuals". In the revised RSV of 1971, the translation "homosexuals" is discarded and the two Greek words are translated as "sexual perverts"; obviously the translators had concluded the earlier translation was not supportable.

Malakoi literally means "soft" and is translated that way by both KJ and RSV in Matt. 11:8 and Luke 7:25. When it is used in moral contexts in Greek writings it has the meaning of morally weak; a related word, malakia, when used in moral contexts, means dissolute and occasionally refers to sexual activity but never to homosexual acts. There are at least five Greek words that specifically mean people who practice same-gender sex. Unquestionably, if Paul had meant such people, he would not have used a word that is never used to mean that in Greek writings when he had other words that were clear in that meaning. He must have meant what the word commonly means in moral contexts, "morally weak." There is no justification, most scholars agree, for translating it "homosexuals."

Arsenokoitai, is not found in any extant Greek writings until the second century when it apparently means "pederast", a corrupter of boys, and the sixth century when it is used for husbands practicing anal intercourse with their wives. Again, if Paul meant people practicing same-gender sex, why didn't he use one of the common words? Some scholars think probably the second century use might come closest to Paul's intention. If so, there is no justification for translating the word as "homosexuals." Other scholars see a connection with Greek words used to refer to same-gender sex in Leviticus. If so, it is speaking of heterosexuals given to such lust they turn to such acts.

Richard Hays tells us, "I Corinthians 6:9-11 states no rule to govern the conduct of Christians."

One commentator has another reason for rejecting the NIV and original RSV translations, "homosexuals." Today it could mean that a person who is homosexual in orientation even though "of irreproachable morals, is automatically branded as unrighteous and excluded from the kingdom of God, just as if he were the most depraved of sexual perverts."

So I Cor. 6:9 says nothing about homosexuality with the possible exception of condemnable pederasty.

2007-10-15 12:14:08 · answer #8 · answered by Tim A 6 · 1 0

Maybe it's because they feel they are being attacked and persecuted by gay people. People do terrible things and justify it because they feel they are being persecuted. They (straight conservative Christians) are not the only ones around this sub-culture who do this.

2007-10-15 10:52:20 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

yea....love doesnt know gender...however they think in their minds that God created love to be practiced only with the opposite sex...( as if man can control love)

2007-10-15 10:56:06 · answer #10 · answered by ? 3 · 1 0

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