Do you think cons will start complaining about the "liberal scientists" and "liberal census" in the future?

Question

Just like they complain about the "liberal media", the "revisionist historians" (meaning real historians not fake neo-confederate historians), "activist judges", "liberal academia", "communist professors", and "liberal teachers"?

Seems to me they have to come up with some slogan everytime the facts don't turn up their way.

EXAMPLE 1:

In response to me using data from www.whitehouse.gov proving Keynesian Democrats are superior to tax cuts for the rich supply side Republicans:

"like we believe anything the gov't puts out..... "
- badjansenn = CON
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EXAMPLE 2:

In response to citing the U.S. Geological Survey proving man produces over 150 times more CO2 then all volcanic activity combined.

""There are lies, damned lies, and statistics." Harry S. Truman, 1948.
I don't believe anything you have written above."
- regerruged = CON

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EXAMPLE 3:

In response to a liberal stating that a Pew Research poll said a majority of Americans supported a time table for Iraq.

"Polls are written by groups with an agenda; and yes our media has an agenda."
- netjr = CON
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EXAMPLE 4:

On citing how all the well established scientific organizations involved in climatic, geologic, and meteorologic research (including PRIVATE scientific organizations funded by membership dues like the Geological Society of America and the American Meteorological Society) and how they have official statements in support of man made global warming:

"They are all funded by government grants. The media can sell anything to a liberal like you. Get the facts from independent non-government sources"
- "GREAT_AMERICAN" = con
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Answer 1

No, I will just complain that you run from these questions about your theory:

1 - What percentage of current climate change is attributable to man-made factors, and what percentage is attributable to random variation of the sun?

2 - Why is warming occurring on Mars?

3 - Why will the coders of global climate models not release their computer code?

4 - How are temperatures pre-1700 validated?

5 - Why do global climate models predict future warming, even when *RANDOM* values are input for past temperatures?

I'll also complain that you maintain that "consensus" is science, and that you use a bivariate causal analysis when many variables are involved.

Answer 2

OK....instead of just cherry picking answers from those that you know can't debate....how about a real conversation then.

Point 1: Keynesian? Did we not see how ineffective that model is during Carter's 70's stagflation? Is it not the main reason for such a event since the model NEVER COVERS IT!!!! No wonder Carter couldn't adapt well during those times...he was dealing with a economic model that is obviously unrealistic.

Point 2: OK...and? How much is that to the TOTAL CO2 present in the atmosphere and then lets look at other greenhouse gases (like WATER vapor for instance) and while we are at it let's see how total CO2 compares to water.

Point 3: OK....and? I bet you $1,000,000 that the majority of Americans would love $1,000,000 to be handed to them also. I bet you that a majority of Americans would love to see peace on earth. What are the odds that we can get a majority of americans to think that everyone should never have anything bad happen to them. Problem is that most of the time, popular things aren't always obtainable nor smart to do. Popularity gave us Paris Hilton....and you want to embrace this as a guide for national policy?!

point 4: Just one thing.....where is the proof? Or is this just their opinion....an opinion that is gaining in popularity...which goes back to my point three. Show me the data that links man to rising temperatures...especially when we don't know even if co2 rising is causes higher temps or higher temps is causing co2 rising.

Now go on and give me the thumbs down because I had the audacity to address your points without attacking you (unlike what you have done) nor create a bogus question just so you can get some ego boost from your fellow idealogues. Grow up and realize that there are thinking people that don't agree with you and you do more harm than good snubbing those people without addressing them.

Answer 3

Notice how this conversation is going. You believe me or you are wrong. How is the liberal reaction any different?

Another example of lack of free thinking:

Like it or not religion has shaped and continues to shape our world. Why not teach various religions in school along side scientific theories and let children research, ask questions ie make up their own minds? Equally present all sides and let the individual decide. They are better educated and truly free then. But no Libs have all the answers they want to believe what they believe, if not you're an idiot "Con". Grow up.

Answer 4

Carl Rove's influence on conservative strategy was amazing. When his conservative candidate had a vulnerability, he would immediately strategize to make the opponent appear to have that same weakness, but greater.

If the opponent has a great strength, then Rove would make sure that they would make it seem like a great weakness. (One congressman funded child programs, and the Republicans successfully spread rumors that he was a child abuser..)

Example of the Truth:

John Kerry was a decorated war hero.

George Bush avoided Viet Nam and avoided service completely.

As it turned out, The media ran nonsensical and untrue accusations tarnishing John Kerry's war record. It was later determined that he was a true war hero and the the false accusations were totally unfounded and totally funded by Republicans. Many examples of "dirty tricks" are reported by Al Franken in "Truth".

Of course, we know now about how being a war monger helps in the popularity in the short term (it's wag the dog). The media went light on Bush for his hypocracy in avoiding military service.

Bush is portrayed as strong and decisive. Kerry is made out to be a flip flopper. However, when you look at the facts, Kerry was very consistent in his voting record and his rationale for each of his votes in congress.

A stronger argument can be made that Bush is a big flip flopper, but it appears that the Republicans have much better control of the media. The media has talked about accusations that are untrue against Kerry, and minimized the negatives of Bush.

The "dirty tricks" have become an art form for the Republicans, and the media is at fault for buying into the process.

Answer 5

Generalizations are infrequently a reliable concept. yet, on the different hand, they're frequently in keeping with some center of reality. to illustrate, contained in usa, there are various Christian agencies that are very aggressive in attempting to enforce their version of morality, it rather is very restrictive and illiberal. Even oppressive. i do no longer think of which could be referred to as "liberal" via any definition of the term. because of the fact fact, that's comprehensible why one might gererally evaluate non-Christians greater liberal than Christians.

Answer 6

The global warming issue is the perfect way to create a new tax, fee but whatever you call it, it comes out of the pocket of the working class while Mr. Al flies around in his private jet stomping his carbon footprint on us all.
Hey I have lived before in these times:
Global nuclear war and we could only be saved by hiding under on school desks by the end of the 60's.
Global cooling by the end of the 70's.
World hunger we will be out of food to feed the world by the end of the 80's.
Global tech crash with the ruin of the banking and everything we depend on by the end of the 90's.
Sorry Al, I have lied to one to many times, all we really have to fear, is fear itself. A great slogan by the way!

Answer 7

Yes. But libs are just as bad as the cons only because the libs have been doing it longer. The libs have dominated & greatly influenced the media, schools, science, tort law for decades & it's only been in the last few years that cons have been able to have their own influence over those things. But since both cons & libs use those things for political gains both of them are usually full of crap.

Answer 8

They already are.

And that is exactly what they do. A good slogan takes two seconds to say and impart meaning. And five to thirty minutes to completely deconstruct.

When their arguments are weakest, there their slogans will come fastest and more furious.

Answer 9

Not a political problem, just a problem..sorry...
Global Warming is a world problem, making it a political problem means nothing gets done....

Answer 10

The armchair Conservatives don't offer any solutions, they just want to bash liberals. If someone doesn't agree with them, they are a liberal.

If there weren't any liberals, who would the conservatives blame? They would start blaming other conservatives who they deem aren't "conservative" enough, so more liberals are created.

Conservatives create liberals. They need someone to blame.