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what about the liberals? ....

2007-10-13 12:52:40 · 11 answers · asked by nicollette 2 in Politics & Government Politics

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Conservatives believe in the freedom and liberty guarenteed by 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution

Liberals don't

2007-10-13 12:58:48 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

The use of the terms conservative and liberal are irrelevant, particularly since their meanings have changed considerably.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

Republican and Democrat are likewise pretty useless terms for such a comparison as these political parties are almost the same thing (statist) nowadays.

The only real argument on the side of gun control is based upon absolute ignorance. It's not that difficult to look at the historical facts and conclude that gun control has no bearing at all upon violence or gun related crime. Granted there is a little merit to preventing certain individuals from legally obtaining firearms, but clearly one who is a criminal will not abide by any such laws by mere definition.
Quite simply gun control laws only serve to make more 'criminals' as what are otherwise law abiding citizens are prevented from lawful gun ownership and means of self defense against those who have no respect for just laws.

"...there is no constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered by criminals or madmen. It is monstrous if the state fails to protect its residents against such predators but it does not violate the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment or, we suppose, any other provision of the Constitution. The Constitution is a charter of negative liberties: it tells the state to let people alone; it does not require the federal government or the state to provide services, even so elementary a service as maintaining law and order."
Bowers v. DeVito, U.S. Court of Appeals, Seventh Circuit, 686 F.2d 616 (1882)

And on Iraq:
"Capt. John Newman, 31, of Columbus, Ga., said the Soldiers believe they can discern volunteers from the insurgents.

"We've given them their road guard vests," Newman said. "So, he'd better be wearing that vest if I see him carrying an AK-47."

Lynch stressed the Americans are not arming the groups because the men already have weapons, primarily AK-47s that are legally permitted in Iraqi households.

"We are allowing the people of Iraq to secure their own areas and they are using their personal firearms to do that," he said.
...
The U.S. military says the ultimate goal is to bring the volunteers into the Iraqi security forces, which the Americans hope will be eventually able to take over the country's security so they can go home."
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,151877,00.html?ESRC=eb.nl

2007-10-13 13:46:54 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The above mentioned web site also has this story as their lead today...
Governor Schwarzenegger signed laws that will ban the use of "Mom" & "Dad" and "Husband" & "Wife". These laws also allows children to use which ever bathroom and locker room they choose (ex. a boy can use girl facilities and a girl can use boy facilities).

By signing these laws the Governor has made public schools into centers to indoctrinate children with homosexual, bisexual and transsexual beliefs. Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families was quoted as saying, "Arnold Schwarzenegger has delivered young children into the hands of those who will introduce them to alternative sexual lifestyles," and "this means children as young as five years old will be mentally molested in school classrooms....Shame on Schwarzenegger and the Democrat politicians for ensuring that every California school becomes a homosexual-bisexual-transsexual indoctrination center," he said.

SB777, one of the laws the Governor signed, bans anything that can be interpreted as negative toward alternative lifestyles. That's the law that would ban the use of "Mom and Dad" and "Husband and Wife." This same law does not ban anything that would be negative towards traditional lifestyles. It would also require the curriculum to include positive portrayal of alternative lifestyles which would mean that new textbooks would be needed that would promote homosexual, bisexual and transsexual lifestyles and that would affect the rest of the country because California is one of the biggest purchasers of textbooks in the country.

By allowing children to use which ever bathroom and locker room they want supporters of these laws are opening up the door for molestations in schools and will be directly responsible for this act when they occur.

AB394, another law the the Governor signed, requires that parents teach their children to accept these alternative lifestyles.

These laws are not going to just affect California, they could affect the rest of the country because of the textbooks that are going to be needed for these ridiculous laws. Other schools in the country are going to need to look for new publishers that protect traditional lifestyles (if the major publishers cater to these new California laws) and that could cause a rise in taxes.

Governor Schwarzenegger is now on record as trashing conservative, traditional lifestyles and values and giving special treatment to gay, lesbian and sexually confused students. It's wrong and needs to be corrected and I hope that the conservatives in California can do something about this illegal activity. You have my support and I will be praying for you. Thank you for reading and God Bless.

The scource is nonsense and you can read SB777 by running it in Yahoo search.

Conservative and liberals span the spectrum. I am a liberal and own two guns, one a shotgun, and the other a handgun. Now, conservatives tend to want losser restrictions on guns then liberals, generally. Now if the law is to outlaw owning a gun to hunt, which I do not do, or home protection, I would oppose it, except to keep it out of the hands of felons and nuts. If the law is to outlaw Thomson sub-machine guns, I am there. So it really does depend.

2007-10-13 13:12:04 · answer #3 · answered by Songbyrd JPA ✡ 7 · 1 0

No "gun control" measure has stopped any crime,as the steadily escalating murder rates in places like Washington DC attest to.

Any laws passed should be used to keep guns out of the hands of those who clearly should have no access to guns,and severely punish those who use a gun in a crime.Other than that I see no benefit to additional laws that do nothing but keep law abiding citizens from owning firearms.

JR

2007-10-13 13:03:32 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

Guns do not solve any of the problems conservatives hope them to. Just look at Iraq, under Sadom they had the kind of gun control that conservatives can only dream of. All people in Iraq where encouraged to own a hand gun, a fully automatic assault rifle, and ammunition to fire them. Now you would probably consider me fairly liberal but I am not for banning guns or anything close to that but I do feel that making it harder to get a gun would reduce violent gun crimes.

2007-10-13 13:04:40 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

To the cons above: don't speak on my behalf. I'm liberal and I back up the whole constitution, not just parts of like you do.

There are way too many guns in the wrong hands--everybody knows that. But change the constitution? No way.

2007-10-13 13:02:06 · answer #6 · answered by Petrushka's Ghost 6 · 0 2

Here's a liberal view. Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people. I don't mind hunting guns and hunters , but there are guns that really aren't for hunting. Hand guns are not hunting guns. assault rifles are not hunting guns. Any weapon that holds more than 6 rounds is not a hunting gun ( 22 caliber rifles might be an exception here ) If it takes more than 6 shots to hit your pray your ether drunk or a real bad shot and shouldn't be hunting.

2007-10-13 13:17:48 · answer #7 · answered by old-bald-one 5 · 0 3

That the government should not say whether we can own a gun and what kind we can own.

The liberal position is that the government should say whether you can own a gun and what type.

2007-10-13 12:57:20 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Gun control doesn't stop criminals from getting guns, it just stops honest citizens from getting them.


http://www.truewordtoday.blogspot.com

2007-10-13 12:56:09 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

I know what Hitler thought about it.


Edit: old-bald-one, the 2nd amendment had absolutely nothing to do with hunting.

2007-10-13 13:01:48 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

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