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2007-10-12 08:31:29 · 10 answers · asked by Terry 7 in Society & Culture Mythology & Folklore

Hint: One is the usage of Warlock.

2007-10-12 09:19:53 · update #1

There are ten or more.

2007-10-12 09:21:16 · update #2

To clear some confusion: Heathen is an Old English word that is defined as hÆth, heath, untilled land, moors. Abit later the definition was "People of the Heath and moors." Then Christians tacked on Non-believers in Jesus quite a short time ago as history goes. I use it as one of Asatru would.

2007-10-12 09:30:26 · update #3

Black Aliss,
I won't belabor you for cite, but it would be of interest to me. The closest I have come to a true Wizard and sorcerer root is the Anglo Saxon Warlau

2007-10-12 13:57:55 · update #4

Aliss, I about choked on my coffee when I read the first line of the Wikka definition of warlock . . ." Warlocks are, among historic Christian traditions, said to be the male equivalent of witches," This is why I ignore anything tagged with a wikipedia cite.

I'd enjoy following the the history of Warlock if you wish. The books I normally use are Halliwell's "Dictionary of Archaic and Provincial Words," Brewer's "Dictionary of Phrase and Fable," The OED, Frrazer's "The Gold Bough" and some few others if the dialogue becomes interesting. Did I detail that Warlau is a Wizard in Anglo Saxon? It has been years since I mucked about in Norse translations... but I may start another Query just on Warlock.

2007-10-13 08:14:37 · update #5

Five words I use to judge the words in a Question or Answer.
Free -- Used in a sentence or phrase containing the words spell or ritual.
Warlock -- Used for Male Witch (The Asatru are looking at it seriously for a title, but need a bit more research.)
Magic -- When denoting the working of Magick
Satan -- Used in conjunction with Magick or any of the Pagan belief structures.
Wiccan/Witch -- When used as the other
Black -- When used with any spelling of Magick.
Evil -- When attached to Magick or Spirits.
Possession -- Used in a sentence or phrase containing the words Pagan, Heathen, or Witch.
Witchcraft -- Used in a sentence or phrase containing any of the specific Crafts, especially those that are talents rather than Magick.
Hell--That's just too obvious.
Skyclad -- used stupidly.
Book of Shadows -- In any attempt to aquire such from anyone or a commercial source.
Ouija -- described in so many stupid ways.
Well I've given a Bakers dozen and it's time for best answer.

2007-10-13 09:03:51 · update #6

10 answers

hell
spell
magic
coven
heaven

edit



maybe also "fellow pagans"
and "i've read all the information"

more edit
you said warlock
book of shadows...
wikka

2007-10-12 09:02:07 · answer #1 · answered by joe the man 7 · 1 2

There are actually some in the heathen community trying to reclaim the word "warlock" using a old norse etymology as opposed to the Scottish etymology. "Old Norse term for enchanter or sorcerer is vard-lokkur." thereby making it non-derogatory.

But some of the terms may be

"Dark Arts"
Abbreviating the wiccan rede to simply "Harm none"
Believing that the three fold law applies to every magical paradigm
"Charmed ones"
"Black/White Magick" (although depending on context this could be a cultural thing, for example in Santaria trance possesion with the "left hand" Orisha or conjuring with "both hands" is still considered "black magic" in the hispanic comunity)
Spelling "magic" any other way with the exception of "Magick" if they are Thelemites.
Insisting that "real" magic be spelled any other way because spelling it "magic" means illusions & stage magic.

that is all that I can think of offhand...



When speaking to someone face to face, it is much easier to know who is relatively newer to the craft or has only book knowledge, as they have difficulty pronouncing Samhain, Deosil, Lughnasadh, athame etc...They are also usually sporting the "Mr T. Pagan starter Kit" around thier necks with 5-25 necklaces, pouches, charms, amulets, stones, sigils, or symbols.

Edit: the site was already listed in the "sources" albeit a witchvox article, from one guy... I have known quite a few heathen men take to the name "warlock" with great pride, and they would not be considered "newbies" But i will cite a few more sources as i come across them

"While sitting on the Seidhrhiallr the magician was surrounded by helpers (who were drumming - on the seidhrdrum, called lock - or/and sang - the power song called vardlokkur (has been mentioned as galdr) - that would help her/him - sometimes also the helpers - to get into ecstasy). "
http://www.xeper.org/hyperborea/seidhr_eng.php
yes this is from the temple of set, of which Edred Thorrson (Stephen Flowers) has been known to be an active member

To your defense
according to the almighty wiki... Oxford english dictionary sees it as an inadmissble etymology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warlock

Blue chaos: sorry i should have posted a warning...

2007-10-12 10:47:39 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

Bravo on the back round ;) Yes we go by Heathen. Oh lets see, Wizard, Warlock (Means oath breaker. That one irks the hell out of me) Sorcerer, Satanist (Especially since I know Satanist. They don't appreciate being lumped in with pagans either since most of them are atheist) and anyone asking for love spells. For Asatru, hmm...I dunno. I'm a "newbie" per say but if you study hard then you weed out the "crap" pretty fast. But I swear to the gods if I hear one more person tell me what stone, crystals or herbs "go with" the gods I'm going to scream. That's a pretty big sign of a newbie or a bitrad. Bi trad isn't "bad" but sure as hell ain't Asatru. Ugh drives me nuts. And anyone who claims Asatru and talk about the gods being ASPECTS is a newbie. You can not believe that and be Asatru. The rest of the belief system crumbles if you do. edit: LOL yeah there you go Boar. He's an "old timer". Those are the ones!

2016-05-22 02:42:39 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Why would you want to ask such a negative "catch 'em out" question? that's hardly pleasant behaviour now is it? Do you feel a need to lord it up over people who haven't been Pagans for as long as you?

I'm sorry but this all seems a bit pointless!

2007-10-12 09:29:39 · answer #4 · answered by James Melton 7 · 2 2

I don't know 5 specific words, but...

if they are gushing about the "influence" of Harry Potter, they are a Christian posing as a newbie.

2007-10-12 08:35:18 · answer #5 · answered by kent_shakespear 7 · 1 1

I don't know. Black Aliss, I nearly choked when I read your answer.

2007-10-12 11:12:51 · answer #6 · answered by blue chaos soɐɥɔ ǝnlq 7 · 2 0

Um, hm... "do you believe in magick?"

I hope you're going to tell us when you choose a best answer.

2007-10-12 08:39:55 · answer #7 · answered by Kallan 7 · 1 2

You actually use the word heathen in everyday language?

2007-10-12 08:34:53 · answer #8 · answered by Goddess 5 · 1 5

Heathens post here?

2007-10-12 08:34:30 · answer #9 · answered by campojoe 4 · 1 4

You are mistaken.

Nothing marks anyone.

Blessed be -

2007-10-12 09:12:05 · answer #10 · answered by Owlwoman 7 · 1 3

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