the school where my girl goes to they have banned going to the toilet during lessons?

Question

how does this stand in the europian human rights under law?

Answer 1

Good. It's good training for later life. How many of us are in jobs where we can just drop our work whenever the fancy takes us?

What a pity you're more concerned with using European Law to indulge your daughter, instead of supporting the school in its attempts to provide lessons uninterrupted by teenagers claiming incontinence.

Answer 2

I'm from Canada, but I asssume Europe also has no human rights rule about "right to go". I agree with the other posters - at a certain age, you should be able to hold it - with maybe an exception for severe medical conditions. Otherwise, holding it for 40 minutes or so wouldn't fall under "cruel and unusual punishment."

I can sympathize. Having a few teens walking the relatively deserted school corridors unsupervised is probably an invitation to trouble. Either the administration is particularly a-na-l (appropriate considering the topic) or the rule is a result of some incident. They'd be the first to be blamed if the kid got into trouble after leaving the classroom.

Answer 3

At school, I was a 8 at the time, a girl in my class had to go to the loo. Unfortunately, she was dead scared to ask the teacher and ended up going right there.

Obviously she was mortified, but more, the embarrasment stayed with her for years to come. She ended up hanging out with the wrong crowd, and you can fill in the rest...

I would say, that it is against the child's interest if they ban the most basic human need. I can see that they want to stop other kids taking the p**s(no pun intended), but they should use discretion instead of an outright ban.

Answer 4

Some school required that during classes no one is allowed to loiter around the campus, much more in the corridors of the classroom because of the noise created by people going in and out of the corridor, disrupting classes. Maybe that is why they are banning girls to go out during class hour, but this is illegal if they happen to go out because of the call of nature.

Even not concerning the Euro human rights law, why your PTA(Parents-Teachers Association) couldn't solved this simple problems, that you required the European Union human rights advocates to address this petty difference between you and the school administrator?

Call the school administrator and discussed this ridiculous rule regarding school girls who like to go to the toilet. Simple isn't it? Why bother the entire Europe or the EU human rights for God sake. Somebody is dying already? The school ground is flooded? Starvation is raging inside the school?

Answer 5

Does ur girl suffer from bladder or bowel problems? If she doesnt and she is very little, then t6o me the school is as bit harsh and if I were u , I would pay the school a visit.

If ur girl does have either or both problems, and u notified the school regarding ur childs condition, and they refuse to let her visit the toilet during class time, then you casn kick up merry hell, cos if urgirl happened to wet or have loose bowels in class, think what ur poor girl would suffer. Firstly, she would suffer severe embarrasment and be terrified to get up off her chair scared that her class mates will give her a bad time embarrasing the poor kid, which could lead to bullying, teasing, classmates telling the whole school and people at home, ur poor kid would be terrified to go outside the house.
Ur child could end up branded and called allsorts insulting her and ur family.
There has been cases where poor kids in same circumstances have taken their lives.

I would get straight down to ur girls school and see the most senior female staff member, and have a discreet meeting with her and ur daughter, to save her the humiliation she would face if her classmates found out first , and even though the school agreed to let her visit toilet during class time, the kids would soon find out where she goes to.
So its best to keep things as quiet as possible for ur girls sake, as it doesnt stop at school, she could be marked as the kid who wet or pood her knickers, imagine u hearing from a friend years later that those kids grown up now, are still talking to others.

If the senior staff member refuses ur girl time to visit loo, then I would report the school to the education dept, informing local mp and thats for starters, if education dept sticks up for schools decision, which I doubt they will, then Ur local mp would be ur first step.

I am sure the discrimination act is in favour of ur child.

Good luck m8, keep an eye on ur daughter, if she changes at all in any little way, then it could be she is upset but trying not to show you or tell you, she may be getting bullied physically or mentally or both.

Please let me know how u get on.

Jimmy. Scottish gentleman living in Essex England UK
EX Ambulance service Ambulanceman.

Answer 6

i mean if theyre desperate they should be allowed to go and aparently its against their human rights or whatever

but honestly the school have their reasons
it happened at my school because things were being stolen because people had said they were going to the toilet and instead went looking in someones coat or whatever

also they lose out on the work they would have done not going to the toilet

and couldnt your girl have gone at break or something
thats what my teacher always says

Answer 7

It's all well saying ' oh at a certain age you should be able to hold it' - but if you need to go, you need to go!

I mean when I was at school they didn't allow you to use the toilets at all! - not even at break time. They locked all the toilets in the school.

There should be a human rights thing as this could lead to bladder infections if your forced to hold it from 8am until 4pm everyday!

Answer 8

This is yet another example of children who say they need the toilet and go off elsewhere during lessons, causing the genuine children to suffer.

It is difficult for the children but it is also difficult for the teacher, when children behave in this way and miss parts of lessons.

Answer 9

Are you a parent? How old is your girl? You realize you are a teacher also right? If you can't handle this problem, how in the world are you going to handle the difficult decisions when it comes to your child? Grow up!

Answer 10

Not sure about the human rights aspects,but my daughter is 5 and its the same at her school.The teachers tell them to go at break times and dinner time,but im sure if a child were despereate they would allow it.Its just trying to teach them to go at playtime (because they love to play and dont want to be wasting time going in their breaks)they have to learn some time dont they?