Tim, val f1 nutter, Blue Angel, I totally agree. McLaren was proved cheating (how else can you explain their engines' performance, go ask Kimi about 2004 and last year's car and he actually might show you a deep frown), Lewis himself admitted to being favored. Short term word it was Lewis' mistake, hungrily hounding that title wanting it then and there and in style thus not wanting to give the lead up to Kimi.
2007-10-09 01:14:48
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answered by hickskicks 5
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Alonso did not come into the pits first. Tyres without any names on them were brought out by the mechanics and it was asumed that they were for Alonso. It was at that point that Lewis came in - only too late! And as for Ron stitching Lewis up - you are having a laugh! Ron would do anything for Lewis to win the title. Any what has Bernie got to do with this?
2007-10-10 09:36:39
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answered by cobymox 3
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Well no he wasn't stitched up in China. Monaco was a different story. Alonso did stitch him up in Hungary - no doubt.
Alonso will pay for that I have no doubt. In China, Lewis, by his own admission, could not see his rear tyres, and should have been brought in by his team immediately he started being caught by Kimi. Lewis made a simple mistake - he wasn't unsighted - he just attempted to take that left hander too fast for the grip he had available - the back stepped out, he corrected and slid off in to the gravel - end of story.
Musonic is nearest to the truth whatever anyone else may say.
As for cheating, McLaren and Lewis have not cheated at all. Ferrari are the spoilt brats who expect everything to go their way. Everyone in F1 knows exactly what everyone else is doing and there are no secrets in F1. If Mclaren knew anything from Ferrari at all they would only be as good as Ferrari - logic?. It is obviously the McLaren input that makes them better. Lewis is better than Alonso - there is no doubt about it - Alonso thoroughly binned his McLaren in Japan. As for the others - the likes of Webber - they are simply suffering from a very severe case of sour grapes. Lewis has driven and behaved in an exemplary fashion in his first year of F1 and anyone who does not accept that quite simply does not accept the simple truth.
2007-10-09 16:16:28
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answered by adrianblue7 2
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No he wasn't stitched up the incident in China was probably his own fault because he probably wanted to stay out a couple of extra laps to make up time to Kimi.So it was HIS fault that HIS tactics went wrong for him.If he knew what he was doing out there he would have done the most sensible thing and came into the pits to change his tyres.That is what any sensible person would have done.
I am not sticking up McLaren either because I hate than as well as hamilton,they are both cheaters!
I will be so happy if Alonso isn't there next season so then he will get support from his team!
2007-10-09 14:26:05
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answered by Alonso Forever! 2
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It's just a mistake.These things happen in sport.I like the way Hamilton's handled himself so far and its just close so everyones on edge...on all sides.In sport anything can happen.Its a professional sport so blame and ideas of conspiracy will always rear their head but in this case its simply a driving error that anyone could make.Look at the mistakes of all the other drivers over the season.Everyone makes what seem to hindsight a silly mistake.
All teams have to work together and usually McLaren are a great team and show a good example.
Alonso has been destructive within the team but they are still working towards the goal of making a McLaren driver this years World Champion.
In a job making errors is serious but everyone makes them.Hamilton's shown no bad sportsmanship though and plays within the rules.
Its a sport though...a game...a dangerous game too.Lets see what happens in the long game.That will count as this never will in the long run
2007-10-09 12:28:39
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answered by Anonymous
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No way..Long before Alonso came in,lewis SHOULD have been brought in..look at when Kimi passed him,he should have been in then.and Lewis came in the pits too fast,when he knew how bad the tyres were..and anyway,why was Lewis racing Kimi at the start? he should have been using his head and letting Kimi pass .and the team,they are the main reason this happened.. A silly mistake made by a top team and another silly mistake made by a championship leader.both are NOT champion class..can you imagine Alonso or Shumacher doing that? no way..Kimi for the title
2007-10-09 08:23:43
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answered by Anonymous
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Remember that if it wasn't Bernie's weight Lewis or McLaren wouldn't be even racing anymore for this season and the next one, from Lewis mouth came the words "yeah I'm the favourite in McLaren", if somebody was dirty was Ron Dennis not to sack his Chief Designer when he knew he had all that information from Ferrari.
If somebody is being helped (proved) is Crybaby Lewis.
If somebody is cheating (proved) is McLaren.
This are FACTS!
PS- Let's see his genius next season...
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val f1 nutter, I agree.
Blue Angel, I agree.
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musonic do you watch Formula 1 at all?
Are you from this planet?
Nothing of the things you've said make sense, not even according to McLaren statement. Wake up it's Formula 1 we are talking about, not English Wacky Races that anything can happen...
2007-10-09 05:14:06
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answered by Tim 4
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I can think of no reason why Lewis Hamilton should have been stitched up by anyone.
The tyres had worn extremely badly, and the Ferraris was clearly on far better rubber. Hamilton held Raikonnen off in fine style; taking the car to the absolute limits, while the team decided what to do.
By their own admission, the team left him out on the track too long, and Lewis Hamilton (approaching the pit lane un-sited), lost all grip. Apparently the rear tyre was off the ground as he turned into the pit-lane!
I think they were all a bit TOO keen to clinch the title there and then, and to be honest, if they had played a more tactical game, they would have gained Lewis Hamilton valuable points, and settled for 2nd or 3rd. As it was, he lost out on everything.
Still, Raikonnen can only win if BOTH Maclarens fail to finish in Brazil, so it looks like a straight fight between Alonso and Hamilton; but Hamilton doesn't need to win outright to pick up the championship. If he finishes third, they both become joint world-champions.
As for the genius bit.....Oh yes! He certainly has that!
Edit: Thanks to Philip C for correcting my mistake about the overall points standing and race finishes
Edit 2: Thanks to the contributor who questions my credentials. I have worked in Formula One.
2007-10-09 09:24:29
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answered by musonic 4
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"If he finishes third, they both become joint world-champions."
Not correct. If Hamilton finishes third and Alonso wins, Alonso will win the title because he has more wins. If Alonso doesn't win and Hamilton finishes in a position that mean they have equal points, Hamilton will take it because after win's it comes down to most second places whereby Hamilton has more.
2007-10-09 12:12:05
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answered by Anonymous
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no not really. both he and McLaren have accepted they were to blame for the incident. it is simply a case of inexperience. had Fernando been in that position he would have let kimi pass and saved his tyres. I really think all these conspiracy theories are bordering on the ridiculous now. It will all be sorted one way or another in Brazil
2007-10-08 20:51:43
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answered by val f1 nutter 7
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