Another poster brought up an interesting point, he said this:
"Since they’re equal to men you don’t need to compliment their looks, buy them flowers, open their doors, pay for dates, remember special dates, or carry their heavy stuff. Men don't care about any of that.
Plus, since they’re independent, they don’t want your “time & attention” during baseball, football, or basketball season. So, you can watch your games whether she's around or not and save your cash."
If feminist were truely about equality... the statements above would be true. This just shows how strong biology is... Even when a woman is a feminist.. she still needs some of that "special treatment" to feel good or cared for.
2007-10-08 10:06:48 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous in Social Science ➔ Gender Studies
LOL I love you!!! I am a women and I am NOT a feminist!!! I love being taken care of (not that I'm weak) lol and I love knowing that my husband is stronger than I am and that he is our provider I like it that way!!! I wish feminists would just leave things alone!!!
Hey open my door, stop that ball game while I talk, buy my food, remember my birthday, and pack this heavy box!!! LOL I will not be mad~I promise!!! and when you get finished treating me like a lady, I am women enough to treat you like a MAN!!!!!!
2007-10-08 10:27:21 · answer #1 · answered by in His image 6 · 7⤊ 6⤋
okay i'm far from a feminist infact i wish they would just shut up! We are different and should have some different stuff to let that been known! feminist were good back when females couldn't vote but now i don't see a point in it!
however your post stricks a bit of rebel in me so i will respond!
1. compliments I complement EVERYONE MALES AND FEMALES so why should that stop why are you placing that on only females men like them too! or do you like being told your good in bed?
2. flowers - so you didn't want that nice golf gloves I bought for you? just becase i know youlike it! heck what ever gift is nice and i think of you and have the money your getting it! so your telling me men don't think of other people moreover when they have someone special that they care about and know that they like flowers! That seems a bit ignorant and lazy! would hate to be around you for the hoidlays i woun't get anything but what i don't like! sence your not logical enought to put two in two togheter!
3.. open doors for me sweet that's nice of you did you see that stranger who held the door for me too She was nice! don't you think.
4. pay for dates WELL SPEAK UP I always had money to cover my meals when i dated! ALLWAYS! and it's not my fault you dont set those expitaions prior to the date! oh wait that might hender your getting some!
5. you know when the super bowl is? oh crap you remembered a date! what are you going to do!
if you don't care about any of that sort of stuff then why bring it up so appernelty you care! mroe then you even know!
most females don't mind cmplemneting there partner, or getting them a book or something they like, some will even hold the door open for you, and pay for days carry heavy stuff!
Maybe i grew up just my mother and me so i'm preity dang indpendant and i dont' need anything you listed to be happy!
so i see the point your trying to make but chiverally has died a long long long time ago!
and compation is needed by all sexs to feel good!
weather it's your boss saying good job
or you suck it's motivation and reasurance that is a case by case study! that or My lover is one heck of a lucky man!
:)
Rock out with your booots out LOL
2007-10-08 10:25:50 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 2⤋
Sure, he could watch the game, work on cars, go to knitting circles, do whatever it is he does. I could go to cooking class, train with my ballroom dance coach, read magazines, etc. But I think it's natural when you're in a relationship to want SOME "time and attention", from your SO, whether your male or female. If there's no "time and attention" devoted to eachother..well...you don't have a relationship.
Relationships don't necessarily have to be "equal" in every way. As long as things even out in the end. My bf does more of the housekeeping. He's better at it. But I think it's only fair that I contribute a little more towards our rent. He's struggling a bit financially at the moment. I'm not. So it all works out. He has a little of the financial burden taken off of him. I come home to a nice clean house everyday.
It's not about me "as a woman" needing "special treatment." I do nice things for him. He does nice things for me. Sounds pretty balanced, and if we can find ways to make it work so we're both happy, then what's the issue?
2007-10-08 10:23:33 · answer #3 · answered by Priscilla B 5 · 9⤊ 3⤋
Well, yes, of course I want special treatment in a relationship. What would a relationship be if people treated each other just the same as they'd treat everyone else? They might as well just call themselves bed buddies or something. That's not a relationship.
If you're in a romantic relationship with somebody, male or female, it's normal to give them special treatment and expect special treatment in return. What one person does for the other may not be exactly what they would like in return, but they do it for the other person because they know the other person likes it. I wouldn't want to be in a relationship where I'm nice to a guy and help him with stuff, plan fun things to do together that I know he'll enjoy, talk to him sweetly, listen to his problems, and then he says, "Bah, you're a feminist and I shouldn't have to give you special treatment. Pass the pork rinds and the remote. I'm watching football all week." Nuh-uh. I'd expect him to be nice back.
2007-10-08 10:34:40 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 4⤋
I believe special treatment can go both ways. It's not a tennis match where you keep track of who scored the most, but if you have a loving relationship, mutual giving and receiving only come naturally. Anybody who brings power struggles or keeping careful scores into a relationship, is only destined to fail. You can't run a company without knowing what roles each employee plays and what their job description is. In relationships, both individuals can simply come to an agreement with their own comfortable roles. As long as everybody takes care of their part I don't see any problems with making it work and being happy. But you just can't micromanage relationships when it comes to power.
EDIT: Besides, I would like to think that when I choose a man to spend my life with, give my body and mind to, I trust my judgment of character and choice enough, not to have to stress about him abusing his power or oppressing me. So I don't see anything wrong with giving up control and letting him be in charge of certain situations. If you promote someone to be the VP of your company, would you trust to put them in charge, or do you feel that they will ***** up if you let them run the company? What does that say about your decision of promoting him?
2007-10-08 10:25:08 · answer #5 · answered by Lioness 6 · 6⤊ 1⤋
That's entirely cool as long as you don't expect your girlfriend to ever compliment you on your looks, buy you thoughtful gifts, open a door for you, pay for dates, remember your birthday or anniversary, or help you out in any way. (Since "men don't care about any of that.")
Oh and let's not forget you want her to completely ignore you during an entire season of (insert subject here).
Why do you antis keep mixing up the concepts of "normal human consideration toward others" and "special treatment?" Is it really "special treatment" to treat someone with consideration and respect? Do you really expect me to believe that you wouldn't care if someone you loved treated you with a lack of consideration and respect? That's just twisted.
2007-10-08 12:07:38 · answer #6 · answered by It's Ms. Fusion if you're Nasty! 7 · 3⤊ 3⤋
I don't need to be taken care of by anybody and I believe any able bodied adult doesn't need it either. I'm not an invalid who has to be cared for by others. Those people who want special treatment are only doing it because they like the attention they're getting. It makes them feel special.
2007-10-08 10:37:02 · answer #7 · answered by RoVale 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
It depends on who asks who out on a date. Even if I asked a woman I didn't know out to lunch, I would offer to pay. Maybe she wasn't expecting the expense, maybe she's just being courteous by accepting my invitation. I don't know, so I offer to pay. Once I was in an actual relationship with a man, I offered to pay about half of the time, just like I would do with any friend. I don't really like splitting the bill, it's awkward to me. I'd rather just pay when it's my turn.
I adore it when my husband opens doors or buys me pretty things. I love to cook a meal and dress up for him. Equality means equal respect and equal choices for women, not treating them exactly like men, unless that's how they want to be treated, but that's rare.
He's not a big sports fan, but he watches a little basketball and I'll try to smile about it. He does the same for me when I watch whatever mindless entertainment I watch. We watch those things together. Sometimes he snickers and sometimes I roll my eyes, but it's all in good humor.
Everyone needs special treatment and who better to give you that, but your spouse?
2007-10-08 10:33:55 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 3⤋
That describes my view on dating perfectly, but I'm no romantic. Other feminists would take all of this if it meant doing the same for their men.
2007-10-08 15:59:06 · answer #9 · answered by Rio Madeira 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
My boyfriend doesn't buy me flowers (I buy my own), open doors for me, or remember special dates. Yes, he pays for more dinner dates than I do, and carries some of the heavy stuff because he makes more money than me and is stronger than me. And I know more about the football stats than he does, so we watch football together, like we did yesterday.
Yet telling me I'm pretty is not about equality, it's just about relationship building.
2007-10-08 10:14:20 · answer #10 · answered by Rainbow 6 · 5⤊ 3⤋
The other day I was watching an I love Lucy dvd. This programme I was watching was about equal rights, so Ricky and Fred obliged them. They were on their wayout the door their was a wee bit of a skirmish, Ricky turns to Lucy and says "Sorry mister my fault." They go to the restaurant, the waiter pulls out the chairs, Ricky and Fred sit down before Lucy and Ethel do. At the end Ricky and Fred dump Lucy and Ethel with the bill, since they had no money, they had to wash the dishes. Lucy and Ethel both said they wanted to be treated like men.
2007-10-08 10:22:23 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 5⤋