What does the anti-feminist movement have in common with the white supremacist movement?

Question

Sigh. How did I know you were all going to ignore the actual question and instead say, "Waah, waah, but FEMINISM has more in common with it!!" and then give ZERO reasons or examples to support your ridiculous assertions.

Ahhh, my love Nietzsche. He was rejected by several women over his lifetime ... hence the bitterness. But he's still a smarty.

Answer 1

Oh, man, congratulations. You started today's weird obsession among the anti-feminists. You know they feel threatened by your arguments when they can't stop talking about them.

I really want the anti-feminists to have logical, consistent complaints against feminism. I know this sounds weird, but I am a huge fan of constructive criticism. I'm not perfect, nor are my beliefs. Please, criticise me and them. If I can argue successfully with you, I know I'm on to something. If I can't, well, now I know where I'm weak and where I have something that needs fixed. So I really hate to say this, because I think every social movement needs criticism from without as well as within, but I think you have something with your comparison. They both use poorly thought-out arguments to bolster their cases, and they both rely more on knee-jerk reactions to a group rather than thought and logic. They unreasonably dislike a large, nonhomogenous population and make blind assertions about that population based either on what a few people in it say or do (without examining the _why_ of their behavior) or what they imagine people in that group say or do. Every statement I've heard from the anti-feminists can be disproven with a few mouseclicks and some intelligent Googling, but they don't care. It's kinda sad, really.

Oh, here's another similarity. Both groups are terrified at their perceived loss of power. They don't think that, without their special status in the US as whites or as men, they can compete against the rest of us. They also think it's a zero-sum game, where white men end up losing and minority groups win. Again, sad.

Answer 2

what is with people thinking feminists believe women are better than men?? Real feminists believe we are all equal.
The similarities are that both groups have a greedy need for power. It is that neither wants the power to change race or gender. Here's a little fun fact for you. For many years before both the civil rights and women's rights movements the government would never agree to giving power to either, and in many cases even slandered women and people of color.
if you don't believe me, then, did you know that EVERY SINGLE President EVER, of the United States of America has been a White christian Male. seems crazy, right, when America is supposed to be a "melting pot" of sorts and a very diverse country, and if that is so, why hasn't our government been so also, as to represent all these diversities?? the answer is the anti-feminist movement and the white supremacy movements. thus, there is your answer.
also, both are indifferent and hateful to those not like them.

Answer 3

You use the Roman alphabet to spell both phrases? The word "movement" is used in both? They both involve people? I give up. One is a movement to bring equality and social justice to over half the population and is concerned with the plight of all people regardless of skin color. The other is a foul, racist movement whose members are primarily sad, stupid men with very low self-esteem who feel that they can't compete on an equal footing with nonwhite people. Feminism and the white supremacist movement have pretty much opposite aims here.

Answer 4

Well, both groups tend to be Christians. Although, some neo-nazis have a "viking pride" thing going on, from what I understand. And I guess both groups put a lot of value on having and rasing children. Also, both groups think that being a housewife IS a contribution. However, I doubt any Blacks would be members of a White Pride group, but the loudest anti-feminists are often women, which indicates to me that it is not a hate group, but a different perspective of what is in women's best interests.

What does the feminist movement have to do with communism? Both call for state-run daycare. Both feel that the nuclear family is a threat to their ideologies and the spread of those ideologies. Both seek to sway citizen's choices of how to parent, how often to work, and both feel that early "preschool" is a great avenue for early indoctrination, regardless of the parent's own beliefs - because, of course, they have the "superior" belief system. Both assume that the masses of men and women are simply too stupid to make good decisions without the "advice" of feminists/communists, and must be gently guided or tricked into doing the "right" thing.

As a Libertarian, I often find myself siding with "parent's rights". I do not agree that the government should tax some personal choices and reward others. I am not, however, a neo-nazi. I just try to avoid the sin of hubris and arrogance that modern feminism seems to embrace.

Answer 5

From what I know about the anti-feminists and the white power people they seem to have much in common.

They both are against the efforts of other people who were oppressed and trying to gain equal rights legally.

They both are made of people who themselves are disatisfied with their own lives and are bitter and hateful and are jealous of the accomplishments of others who had difficulty. They may feel threatened by it or may be just looking for someone else to blame for their own failures.

Or maybe both I don't know. I do know that they are bullys.

They both attract people who are mentally ill and dangerous.

They both attract people who are just evil and sociopaths.

They both claim that They are being opressed by the people they are attacking but they get mad and won't say How when people ask them or say ridiculous things or just lie.

They both attract people who try to give them a cover of being respectable by saying that they really don't hate women or other races and that they just are misunderstood.

These same people who say this totally ignore what their movements are doing or try to explain it with "look what they made us do" excuses. This is true even for terrible violent crimes. They either pretend they don't happen or try to make excuses for what can't be excused.and needs to be punished.

And unfortunately they both get more attention and wasted time than they are worth.

Answer 6

well, for starters the extreme amount of prejudice and hatred both groups project. neither group can see outside of stereotypes and simply hate the groups unlike them as a whole without even debating the issue at hand.

both groups are made up of MOSTLY white, conservative, christian males that want women in the kitchen and out of the workforce. both groups support hate language and neither group can think in abstracts or work with an open mind.

Answer 7

Hatred and the wish for the elimination of an entire race/sex.

Those that didn't 'get it' Franz, never will.

EDIT: uhhh, yeah 'Mafia Girl' is sooo much more intelligent than you Franz, can't you tell? Of course, the word 'model' must be capitalized whenever used, and 'ofcourse' is a single word not two. Btw, if she IS a model, then 'she' must not get a lot of jobs since she's on here so much. I've only seen one or two of her posts where she didn't mention she was a model. Wooo-hoo! Are we supposed to be impressed? I've known a successful model or two, and they would never come on a site like this and constantly state, "I'm a Model, Hi!". LOL, NEVER. No way is she a 'Model', it only says that to get attenton. And, if you have to come on a place like YA to get attention from men, you're in a sad sad state. I've never heard her say anything even remotely intelligent, whether I agreed with 'her' opinion or not. If she IS a female, and that IS her in the pic, and she IS a 'Model', then I can see why she doesn't get much work, gross! (Unless she does print jobs for Sow&Home Weekly) Jealous of THAT?! LMAO, as if!

Answer 8

1) White supremacy is a racist ideology based on the assertion that white people are superior to other races:

a) I often hear anti-feminists in this forum stating that men are superior to women intellectually, physically, and emotionally.

b) I often hear from anti-feminists in this forum that only men have contributed anything worthwhile to society, and that women have not contributed anything of worth to society in philosophy, religion, and politics, for example.

c) Therefore, many of the anti-feminists in this forum are advocating their idealogy that: men are superior to women, their belief that women are their inferiors, and their belief that women should be treated as their subordinates, as women have in the past
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2) White supremacism is used to describe a political ideology that advocates social and political dominance for whites.

a) Anti-feminists in this forum often state that women have too many rights, and in addition, women have "special" rights.

b) Even though a small amount of our society is politically represented by women, in this forum, anti-feminists often revile female politicians and accuse female politicians of being too emotional to "handle" political situations.

c) Therefore, many of the anti-feminists is this forum are advocating their political ideology that men should attain complete and utter political dominance over women. To these people, no woman is worthy of politically representing them in their patriarchal society.

The white supremacist movement has a very traditional view of women, treating women as servants and primarily childbearers. Based on what many of the anti-feminists say in this forum, these anti-feminists will fit right in with white supremacists.

Answer 9

So much! It is based around the same concept - the group in power want to stay in power by denying rights and equality to another group. Both movements have their extremists - African Americans who blame white people for everything, hate white people, etc. and women who blame men for everything and hate men. However, I think the number of people who just want plain fairness outnumber those extremists. It's too bad that men, and white people, focus on the extremists in order to confirm and ascertain (in their minds) that black people/women are crazy, liable to do anything when angry, un-intelligent, etc. Most of us just want to be seen as people/human beings, first and foremost, instead of being seen as "black" or "ladies".

Some differences that I see between the anti-feminist and white supremacist movement are that:
1. White people are somewhat scared of black people - particularly black men. Black men are often bigger and more muscular looking (only stereotypically speaking!) than white men. Men are NOT afraid of women. In fact it's the opposite, if they can't get their way they may use their size to intimidate women.
2. The extremist African Americans may irritate and anger white supremacists, but feminist extremist probably do more than irritate and anger - they hurt men's egos. Men's egos seem to be very important to them, and men need women more than they need African Americans, so even somewhat normal men react with disdain to feminist extremists. All in all, men are very sensitive to ego bruising.

Answer 10

Nothing, the anti-feminist movement seeks equality for men compared to womens rights. The white supremacist movement seeks better laws and I suppose a discriminatory application of laws for blacks.

If you look at the results and outcomes of feminism, the talk of feminiam and the action of feminism, feminism has a lot in common with the white supremacist movement.