What do you think of this?

Question

In my friends' college, fraternity printed a newspaper, listing by name the women that the fraternity members had slept with at a wild drunken party. The newspaper also contained information about some of the sexual encounters with these women. When this newsletter somehow got out of the fraternity house, several of the women on the list filed a sexual harassment suit (internal to the university) against the fraternity. They thought that being sandwiched by two drunk frat guys was the right thing to do, but publishing the newspaper was wrong!

So feminists, if you support sexual liberation and think women are allowed to do whatever they want, why be so ashamed? Is it because deep down everybody still knows right from wrong? What do you think?

Squid, yes I do not mind publishing anything I do in my life because I am not ashamed of anything, son.

Answer 1

If one person makes a sandwich out of another person, then either of the parties should be guaranteed the freedom to announce and publish this fact for everyone to see.

Answer 2

Whatever happened to a no kiss and tell policy? Who in the world would be having any kind of a relationship with these fraternity idiots, when they know that all of their secrets would be published in a newspaper tomorrow? It has absolutely nothing to do with sexual liberation or feminism, it has to do with inability to keep fraternal mouth shut, which will bring celibacy for the rest of their college years. I have no doubts about that.

Answer 3

whether or not a woman chooses to be sandwiched between two drunken frat guys is one thing - but maintaining control over the information is quite another. It has nothing to do with being 'ashamed' (I'm now assuming here that YOU are not a college student...) Think of it this way honey, if you choose to screw all the neighbors wives in alphabetical order - that's one issue. But now suppose all the women got together and decided to have this info put into print - perhaps via flyers attached to telephone poles and tacked up on store windows. Do you think this might have an impact on your relationship with all the males in your neighborhood? Perhaps your girlfriend (or wife) gets to read the paper? How about your boss - your family - mother, children, father? Think people you didn't want to know, might now look at you a little differently? Think it might have an impact on trust?

Next time, try seeing the 'bigger picture.'

Answer 4

Yeah I'm a feminist but please don't just lump all women,"like the trashy specimens in ur question", in the one basket. My thoughts r if u do the crime, u do the time. Yes ur right 2 wonder why the same women who moan 4 equal rights are'nt 2 impressed when their caught moaning between a man sandwich. I think the problem is that women r caught between understanding what r their rights and what r their responsibilities. It is our right as women 2 enjoy sexual freedom and discovery. It is our responsibilty 2 own our actions and the consequences that our choices bring forth. 2 create true change the motion of cause and effect has 2 b embraced. Example- Nelson Mandela believed in the freedom of his people, spoke out, demonstrated his beliefs and took the fall ,ie prison, whilst he did'nt agree with his punishment he did believe in his actions and waited patiently 4 time 2 pass b4 the results of his activism turned positive. I know it may seem like a far fetched comparism but the point is that sometimes freedom brings with it bitter tasting after effects, they may not b nice but they r the aftermath of ur actions. The trick is 2 make smart choices that u can live with. The real question u should ask is,"why is there a surplass of indiscreet men and naive women at this college". I don't think this is a feminist problem as much as it is a moral question. I'm all 4 the freedom of others just as long as they can deal with the burdens of their choices. As 4 the above mentioned newspaper and its naming and shaming of the willing participants, tough luck.....................

Answer 5

Why would a respectable college newspaper print something like that? Would you like it if someone printed an article about you, by name, having sex with some drunk girl? These women probably shouldn't have gotten drunk and slept with frat guys, but they also shouldn't have it made public knowledge.

Answer 6

this is not just "sexual liberation" it could also be slander and in print it called Liable.
For one thing just because the men claimed they slept with certain women does not mean they did.
and Second "feminist" women do not normally go to drunken orgies and sleep with drunk men. - lol
very few women are still trying to advance the womans position and really there is very little left to "fight" for except trying to get the same pay for a corporate level job.
we vote, work, are in the military.... ect

Answer 7

Because liberation does not mean "tell the whole world." Sex is a free and PRIVATE choice. It is no one elses business. THAT is the point of sexual liberation.
it also doesnt mean that there isnt still a social stigma for girls who choose to be sexual. A publication like that puts them in danger of being harrassed and assaulted.

Answer 8

Hmm It's definitely tacky and immoral but Eleanor has a point. Doesn't either member of the party have the right to brag about who who they sleep with I mean women chat all they want about their sex life which is all quite embarrassing for the man should they be charged with sexual harassment. In my opinion you should be more choosy about who you have sex with and if you were stupid enough to do it with a drunken frat boy well too bad for you.

Answer 9

Oh wow...it "somehow" got out? Who would have thought! I thought frat boys were the epitome of discretion. First of all, When someone publishes something like that, how do you know if it's all true. Guys who like to make a big point of talking about their sexual exploits are probably going to embellish or outright lie on more than one occasion. And even if it is true...Yeah, I don't know anyone, male or female, who would like any moment of their sex life to be reveled so publicly. Good for the girls for filing a lawsuit.

Answer 10

this has nothing to do with feminism or gender. if sorority girls decided to publish a paper with all of the men they'd slept with in it, i'd support a sexual harassment suit against the women. harassment is harassment.

morality is not a part of this, either. the girls were not being "immoral." they were engaged in private acts that should not have been publicly documented in a newspaper, unless the girls signed a release or something. they had sex, they didn't agree to be "revealed" to the world or be part of some skanky article.

Answer 11

Dude! It's not about who did what. It's about someone's privacy.

You can get freaky with as many as you want but it's your business and no one else's.

Having sex is the right thing to do. Publishing it is wrong because no one asked them for permission.

I just took a dump this morning. Do you want me to publish that?

How about you? Did you get laid last night or last week? Why can't we see that?
Yea, man, I'd love to see that.
When are we going to see it published?

Come on, man. You talk the talk, but do you walk the walk?

I know one thing for sure. I wouldn't want my wood all over the papers and that'd be the end of my girl if she posted me and her getting down.