The crew of Air Force One and the Secret Service should be a good source of info about Presidents, right?

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They also can share some insights into the character of the First Ladies. Here's what some of them have to say:

Air Force #1 & it's passengers..a must read, folks!



YOU WILL FIND THE SECRET SERVICE VIEWS ON THE
PERSONALITIES OF PAST
PRESIDENTS TO BE QUITE INTERESTING.

For those who don't know... Capt. Denny Keast
flies for UAL and flew many SAM's (Special Air
Mission's) for the White House.

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I flew 4 Presidential support missions in the
C-141 out of Dover AFB, DE.. Two for President
Johnson and two for President Nixon.

Johnson was a first class jerk and on the two
occasions I flew for him, if the Secret Service and
their Liaison in the Pentagon hadn't intervened, we
would have had to stay on the airplane for hours
while he (Johnson) was off somewhere. Ni xon never
required that and the four (4) stops we made with
him he was cordial to the Secret Service and to me
and my crew.

We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was
part of the secret service presidential detail for
many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were
the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the
presidents' plane

Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in
for secret 'dates,' and LBJ was a typical Texas
'good ole boy' womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and
Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton
cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style
or variety.


The information below is accurate: The elder
Bush and current president Bush make it a point to
thank and take care of the air crews who fly them
around. When the president flies, there are several
planes that also go, one carries the armored limo,
another the security detail, plus usually a press
aircraft.

Both Bushes made it a point to stay home on
holidays, so the Air Force and security people could
have a day with their families.

Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally
abusive to her security detail. She forbade her
daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with
them. Sometimes Chelsea, miffed at her mother's
obvious conceit and mean spiritedness, ignored her
demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but
never in her mother's presence. Chelsea really was
a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The
consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but
did not like her. Hillary Clinton was continuously
rude and abrasive to those who were charged to
protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did
their job, as professionals should, but they all
loathed her and wanted to be on a different detail.

Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret
Service as a whole. Former President Bill Clinton
was much more ami able than his wife. Often the
Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks
Hillary would use against her husband. They were
embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency
in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the
presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind
closed doors. Even behind closed doors Hillary
Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that
everyone could hear what she was saying Many felt
sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he
tolerated it instead of just divorcing his 'attack
dog' wife. It was crystal clear that the Clintons
neither liked nor respected each other and this was
true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
Theirs was genuinely a 'marriage of convenience.'

Chelsea was much closer to her father than her
mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt
her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have
charisma, and occasionally would smile at or shake
hands with his security detail. Still, he always
displayed an obvious air of superiority towards
them.

His security detail uniformly believed him to
be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing
without a motive that in some way would enhance his
image and political career. He was polite, but not
kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody
trusted him.

Al Gore was the male version of Hillary
Clinton. They were friendlier toward each other
than either of them were towards former President
Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't
read that in. They were very close in a political
way Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant.
She initially liked Hillary but soon after the
election she had her 'pegged' and no longer liked
her or associated with her except for events that
were politically obligatory.

Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill
Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought
he w as too 'centrist.' He despised all Republicans.
His hatred was bitter and this was long before he
announced for the Presidency. This hatred was
something that he and Hillary had in common. They
often said as much, even in the presence of their
security detail. Neither of them trusted Bill
Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of
them even liked him. Bill Clinton did have some
good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had
none, in the view of their security details.


Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and
arrogant toward his security detail He was
extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to
scold them in the presence of their peers for minor
details over which they had no control. Al Gore
also looked down on them, as they finally observed
and learned with certainty on one occasion. Al got
angry at his offspring and pointed at his security
detail and said, 'Do you want to grow up and be like
them? ' Word of this insult by the former
Vice-President quickly spread and he became as
disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of
them prayed Al Gore would not be elected President,
and they really did have private celebrations in a
few of their homes after President Bush won. This
was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's
election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.

Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on
First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception,
they concede that she is perhaps the nicest and most
kind person they have ever had the privilege of
serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow
her picture to be taken with her security detail,
Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she
offers. She doesn't just shake their hand and say,
'Thank you.' Very often, she will give members of
her detail a kindhearted hug to express her
appreciation. There is nothing false about her.
This is her ge nuine nature. Her security detail
considers her to be a 'breath of fresh air.' They
joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton
is like comparing 'Mother Teresa' with the 'Wicked
Witch of the North.'

Likewise, the Secret Service considers
President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He
always treats them with genuine respect and he
always trusts and listens to their expert advice.
They really like the Crawford, Texas detail. Every
time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q
for his security detail and he helps serve their
meals. He sits with them, eats with them, and talks
with them.. He knows each of them by their first
name, and calls them by their first name as a show
of affection. He always asks about their family,
the names of which he always remembers. They believe
that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of
their service. They could not like, love, or
respect anyone more than President B ush. Most of
them did not know they would feel this way, until
they had an opportunity to work for him and learn
that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has
never changed since he began his Presidency. He
always treats them with the utmost respect,
kindness, and compassion.

Please pass this on. It is important for
Americans to have a true inside understanding of
their President.. And also the woman who is currently
a candidate for president..

Answer 1

As for courtesy where the rich are concerned, I must agree with the person above me, Westhill. The rich teach their children to be very very courteous, by and large. I have noticed this all my life.

Otherwise I just want to say thank-you harryd for this info. I'm very impressed.
But what is the UAL flown by Capt Keast?
Also can I get this info by googling or is it from a book. It would be nice if you could give us the source.

Thanks again. Very interesting. I'm always impressed to star your questions.
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Answer 2

It's a source of anecdotal information, otherwise known as gossip.

It's also a very strange coincidence that historically, all the democrats have been bad and all the republicans have been good.

It may well be true that Bush is polite to the staff who serve him. GW Bush comes from a rich family. His good mother taught him manners, and noblesse oblige