Is the USA turning into a dictatorship or a democracy?

Question

NOTE: NO slamming, politicking or attacking. This is a personal view question on the USA.

Some have said the USA is turning into a dictatorship because the Bush has brought in the Patriot Act which some claim takes away an Americans rights that are stated in the Bill of Rights.

Others say these bills that centralize power help fight terrorist. What is your point of view has the government become so centralized that it grants too much power to the executive branch?

Some say a New World Order exist while others say no it doesn't. George Bush Senior mentioned the New World Order and some say it's all a myth. What is your point of view does the New World Order exist?

Some state that the USA is going to become the North American Union with Canada and Mexico. Do you believe this or is it myth in your opinion?

Bush has ignored polls and continues foreign policy that many people disagree on. Is this proper for a president to ignore the peoples view?

NOTE: All views welcome. No attacks

Answer 1

Well, the Founders gave us a republic "if you can keep it" as Benjamin Franklin once quipped. Though we are lead to believe we still have one, that is not the case today. We don't have a democracy either, though most politicos prefer to use that term.

We are actually under military rule. Been that way since just before the Civil War when Abraham Lincoln declared martial law. That's why all courtrooms and government offices fly the American flag with gold fringe. It signifies that this venue is under military rule. Under military rule, you are guilty until proven innocent. The Constitution? It is said the George Bush once called it "just a goddamn piece of paper." Effectively, that's all it really is today.

We used to elect judges. No more. Now they're appointed by the President and the Governors of each state, the commanders of the military in their particular jurisdiction.

New world order? It's a ways off, but it's coming. It'll be the kingdom of the antichrist. One world government. One world religion. It's in the bible. Read it.

That bit about a coming North American Union is true too. It'll likely come out of the Security & Prosperity Partnership signed by the heads of the U.S., Canada and Mexico is 2005. Currently there's a new highway being built, a quarter of a mile wide that'll run from Mexico to Canada right through the heartland of America. It'll be a toll road owned by a Spanish consortium represented in this country by Rudy Giuliani's Texas law firm. Yeah, THAT Rudy Giuliani.

The new currency is expected to be called the Amero. Don't think us Americans will give up the ol' greenback? My guess is there will be an economic meltdown in this country occurring in the next few years, orchestrated by the Federal Reserve. By the way, the fed is not a part of the government. It's a consortium of private bankers (mostly European) who very deftly hijacked this country back in 1913, then stole all our gold 20 years later. What they gave us in return is worthless paper money that we have to pay interest on. That's why you pay income taxes. According to the Grace Commission (1983) 100% of all income taxes collected goes to pay the interest on the national debt. And you thought it paid for the day-to-day operations of the country. That's what tariffs are for.

There's so much the American public doesn't know. Asleep at the wheel and slaves on the plantation.

Answer 2

My opinion:

["Some have said the USA is turning into a dictatorship because the Bush has brought in the Patriot Act which some claim takes away an Americans rights that are stated in the Bill of Rights."]

I feel we are becomming more like a dictatorship. the people are loosing more of their rights everyday and it seems they give illegals more of our rights anymore anyway.

["Others say these bills that centralize power help fight terrorist. What is your point of view has the government become so centralized that it grants too much power to the executive branch?']

there is to much power to the executive branch anymore. we need to strip them down some.

["Some say a New World Order exist while others say no it doesn't. George Bush Senior mentioned the New World Order and some say it's all a myth. What is your point of view does the New World Order exist?']

UN anyone? Many of our Government wants a 1 world government.

["Some state that the USA is going to become the North American Union with Canada and Mexico. Do you believe this or is it myth in your opinion?']

I do belive it. There is enough proof on the intenet about the talks and meeting about this. Now with the stupid highway that Bush and others in our government want to extend from Mexico to Canada and not use any of our laws is just another piece of proof.

["Bush has ignored polls and continues foreign policy that many people disagree on. Is this proper for a president to ignore the peoples view?"]

No it isn't . Our congress ignores us anymore as does our President.

The real american citizens of this country will eventually have enough of the BS from our government and people here illegally, doing us harm that we will finally stand up and fight to take back what is ours and what we once were. Hopfully then we will concentrate on us for a change and help those in our country first.


Again these are my opinions as a Conservative Republican.

Answer 3

The USA is staying where it is, as a representative democracy. Bush will step down in 2009, and hopefully all this conspiracy uproar talk will die down.

I think both viewpoints you mention about the Patriot Act are correct. It does provide useful tools to fight terrorists. At the same time, anyone can read the language and realize you could easily take away nearly all of someone's rights without repurcusions, for almost any reason you feel like.

I think the New World Order speech was taken out of context. Bush Sr. never defined the New World Order, but the conspiracy theorists certainly took it upon themselves to do so. I interpret his speech as an attempt at creating a lasting peace the world over.

Can't comment on NAU, haven't researched it in any detail.

As far as Bush ignoring polls is concerned, as a representative leader, he should in theory do the will of the people. However war is a difficult choice, and a hard one to support. If you know it's the right choice, then you should make it against the people's wills. This is a difficult balancing act, because there exists a level of ignoring the public that will come back to haunt you. It did in the Vietnam era. Plus you have to consider that Bush and government officials have access to far more information than we do. If we had access to this, we might be forced to take the same course he is.

Answer 4

Easy enough, I prefer friendly dialogue.

Just a pet-peeve of mine, but its actually a Democratically elected Republic. We elect representatives to vote for us, we dont vote on every bill.

For starters, the Pat Act was passed by both The House of Rep's and The Senate. So I dont see how that was a an example of a dictatorship.

The executive branch does not have any more measurable power now than it had 10 years ago. There is a balance of powers and anything that is passed still has to be considered "constitutional" as stated by The Supreme Court. Now I will say this, our federal govt has usurped states powers over the last 5-6 decades and that is not right. It is too centralized but we are just now seeing the symptoms from that illness. Bush is a symptom of a larger problem in my opinion.

The NWO is nothing more than an ideaology/political theory that people disagree with and others agree with. ITs nothing to be worried about and is largely just propaganda used by both parties to spread misinformation and fear amongst the us. This keeps us focused on the trees instead of the forest. "skull and bones" type crap.

No, I do not see that happening. Again, its just a theory. Nothing to worry over.

Many presidents have ignored polls and continued foreign policy initiatives that are unpopular. We are the "emotion" they are the "logic' (or at least how its supposed to be) and we only have access to what we're allowed to see. They have unbridled access.

Is it proper? Absolutely. Thats why we vote for representatives, so somebody can dedicate their full attention to the large issues.

Answer 5

Q: Is the US becoming a democracy or a dictatorship?

A: Neither, the US is a representative Republic and last time I checked we are still holding elections.

Q: What about the NWO & NAU?

A: Nothing more than ideas at this point. The UN and the EU are proof that these ideas are not complete fairy-tales, but still hard to imagine in the near future nonetheless.

Q: Is it proper for a US president to ignore polls?

A: The only polls a US President, Congressman, Senator, or even local Sheriff, for that matter, are obligated to abide by are called elections.

Answer 6

Yes, I think we're at a crisis point. Taking away basic civil liberties is a serious matter, because once taken away, it's almost impossible to get them back. As a rule, they don't get taken away by dramatic strokes, but rather eaten away, eroded. That's what Bush and company (read Cheney) are doing. The difficulty is that a lot of people simply don't care, either because they approve of harsh treatment of people they perceive as enemies.

I stand by the wisdom of our forefathers when it comes to the Constitution ... whats being done with the patriot act is simply wrong, and several very smart men (Washington, Jefferson) warned us that this very thing could happen, and could destroy our union ... they are trying to alter the principles our great country was founded on

PNAC and the 'new world order' is very real ... and very, very scary ... started with Goldwater and came into play in the Reagan presidency - so much for peace keeping and foreign diplomacy - http://www.newamericancentury.org/aboutpnac.htm

no ... I don't believe there will be a north American union

I believe Mr. Bush is too insecure to admit all the mistakes he has made ... so we 'stay the course' to appease his ego at our own peril

Answer 7

I would say neither. A third choice I would pick is socialism. Nothing wrong there, but we are a society founded on rights. Socialism takes our responsibility to obtain rights. Basic health care for Americans. A right? yes. how based on our founding principle do we obtain health care rights. Well, we go to our employer and ask for affordable health care plans. If that fails to work, we then have the government given right to strike and protest. Now, instead, many are 'politicizing' rights taken from us for their own political gain. A move towards socialism covers up this political move, making the cause look like what is best for the people (instead of the politician wanting office). And as for the 'North American Union', that is already happening. And what are our lawmakers doing, hey, most of this change is being done w/ private money. Maybe one USA road will be built by a company from SPAIN! There already is a Mexican customs port in Kansas City, paid by our tax dollars. Oh, wait. Kansas City isn't on the boarder? that;'s OK, its a central hub and I am sure all trucks go there to get inspected before 'entering' anywhere else in the USA. Oh, and those Asian shipments that go into California, too costly. They can go to Mexico instead for a fraction of the labor cost.

Answer 8

There is a global war of ideologies going on that is reflected in American politics. This war has been raging since long before this administration took office. It is an oversimplification, however, it basically boils down to the idea that the world is shrinking and at some point will wind up under some sort of world governing system. The battle of wills comes down to what philosophy such a worldwide system will be based on.

On the one hand we have the socialist one worlders who seem to believe that the answer to any given problem is to have some sort of program administered by a central athority to take care of the issue. The problem with that philosophy is that it creates a system of elite rulers of a "nanny state" who believes it should take care of you from cradle to grave and that you as a grateful citizen should be happy to work for the betterment of such a benevolent system of rule. This is, of course great in theory, but history has shown that socialism doesn't work in the real world and that it doesn't take long for those in power to become corrupt and self serving.

On the other hand there are those that believe that such a world system should be based on free enterprise and that power should flow from the bottom up. This is basically the type of constitutional republic that has made the US so successful. Of course there are those who argue that such systems tend to create an elite ruling class of the super rich that use their monopolies to stay in power.

Personally I lean towards the latter philosophy and urge all to be extremely cautious of supporting politicians who tend to favor the global socialist model.

Answer 9

We are and always have been a democracy. That does not mean the president has to follow polls when making decisions. His job is to do what he believes is right for the country. A lot of people who participate in polls don't have the education or experience to make the decisions he does. If we don't like the job he does we get to vote for someone else in the next election. We can't change our minds and kick him out in the middle of his term just because we disagree with him . That's how democracy works, it has nothing to do with following polls.

Answer 10

A. Congress passed the Patriot Act not Bush. Bush's job is to enforce the laws not make them. As long as the Patriot Act is law Bush is required to enforce it. Bush happens to support the Patriot Act because it makes his job of law enforcement easier but he did not and could not pass it into law.

B. The "new world order" crap is mostly paranoid conspiracy BS spouted by the same fools who think 9/11 was an inside job. It is nothing but childish Internet conspiracy drivel much akin to the UFO conspiracy. Basically it sells books to ignorant teens and the mentally unstable.

C. I have never heard of the "North American Union" but it sounds like more paranoid Internet drival. Open a good book instead. You'll surely learn more...

D. The polls in support of Congress are MUCH lower than Bush's. Congress recently polled at only an 11% approval rating where Bush is polling around 35%. The polls CLEARLY show that while most people want to get out of Iraq ASAP they want to do it by winning and not just tucking tail and running away. Bush is trying to do this, he just has been (up to this month) unsuccessfull. So in reality Bush is trying to do what the polls want. While Congress seems to just be spending their time investigating Bush and not much of anything else.
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