Children's healthcare or endless war? What's your choice?

Question

Obviously Bush made his choice by vetoing the bill.

Every major nation of Earth has insurance for children mandated by the government....except the USA.

Healthcare is a right in most nations....except the USA.

Answer 1

My choice would have been children's health care.

Bush is a pathetic human being.

Answer 2

Definitely NOT free government health care for the kids or anybody!

Giving a way a necessary service for free drives up the cost of that service.

It is a simple supply and demand economics issue.

When more people use a service, the price goes up.
So when government takes my

hard earned money and gives it to a person of the lower class to use, my cost for health care goes up.
When government tries to help me by keeping the price of health care at a fixed level, the quality of service goes down.

Listen folks, the poor in the USA or poor mostly because they lack self control, discipline and restraint. I know there are exceptions, but I would wager few and far between.

My mother is a nurse, she has witnessed an example of a welfare mommy with 5 babies with different dadies calling 911 for an ambulance over 17 times in a 2 day period because she had a stomach ache. This drives up the cost of health care.

To FedUp, I've agreed with almost all of your posts so far except this one.

Answer 3

Health care is not a right in any nation. Even those with Socialized medicine, consider it a privilege.

But countries that do have socialized medicine find that those that can afford it will go to a private physician, or even come to the united States because our health care is superior. rather than wait for months to get an appointment. I have family in England and they go to private Dr's because the wait for an appointment is usually 3 to 4 months.

Aside from that the Veto was because Congress is trying to double the cost of this bill by including those that earn up to 83K a year, for a bill that is supposed to be to assist the poor.

I don't know about you but to me 83K is not poor. So I support the President this time. when did he get a spine?

And the War? It was not carried out correctly, but what do you want to do now about the Iraqis, tell them to screw off, sorry we cant help. Save yourselves. And leave those who supported us to be tortured and killed by the mullahs that will surely drag them into the street after we leave.

So you Dem's, the great humanitarians want to just leave them to be killed. Go Dems! Yay Dems!

Answer 4

I maximum actual could to the youngsters of this u . s . it does not make any experience we are the richest and maximum useful u . s . on earth yet yet we've extra human beings quite infants walking around right here without wellness care because of the fact the mothers and fathers can't have the money for the intense fee expenditures those insurance firms fee hell!you % a larger paycheck just to pay the expenditures. and look in any respect the persons in Congress,all of us of them has fantastic of the line scientific insurance and you're able to too in case you gave your self a three thousand dollar advance like they did final 365 days now does not you? yet yet those airborne dirt and dirt bags in Washington,can't arise with legislations which will have the money for the effort-loose family members of four much less high priced scientific insurance. and actually prisoners don't get loose wellness care anymore i comprehend from working in 2 correctional centers in the event that they get funds from abode or paintings interior the centers and make and earnings that way what ever they % like and aspirin they are charged for it your suitable it use to be loose yet not anymore it nevertheless isn't as much as we pay for on the outdoors even with the shown fact that it fairly is not without fee for them anymore. there is a lot shall we do with that funds right here at abode all the youngsters in this u . s . that flow to mattress at night hungry for loss of nutrition,clothing you call it nicely help a rustic and its human beings foreign places as speedy as you snap your hands and that i'm involved in that travelling as I did interior the united statesnavy,throughout seas I even have seen some fairly impoverish international locations and human beings yet you're able to be able to desire to guard abode and your human beings first and so a ways as i'm project that isn't being executed. those are merely extremely some the failings i could do with all that funds that has been spent in Iraq,for the persons of this u . s . first till now I helped the different u . s . charity they say is think to start at abode and that's precisely have been i could start up and end.

Answer 5

Healthcare in the United States is a for-profit commodity.
In the rest of the civilized democracies it is considered a basic human right.
Bush's reasoning for his vetoing the bill was precisely because he did not want to see healthcare become a social right.

Bush was looking out for the Insurance and Pharmacuetical Corporations, just as he looks out for Big Oil and the War Contractors.

Answer 6

any person (citizen or illegal) can get healthcare if they need it. Just show up in an ER and request treatment. Even if you are indigent, you will be treated, if for no other reason than to avoid possible lawsuit if you walked out and fell over dead. Illegal aliens take advantage of this all of the time, their health care costs are passed on to the rest of the public through higher health care costs. The bill was vetoed because of some very ill advised riders on it. Not because of the health care issue, although I agree it certainly isnt needed. And as far as what the rest of the nations of the world do or dont do, I dont care, I am an American and WE will decide what is best for our nation. I certainly dont consider the French as a shining example of what a nation should be.

Answer 7

Children's health care if stated like that. However, it's not that simple and any realistic person knows that.

You have to also look more into the bill. Especially when you consider this is only the 4th time Bush has vetoed a bill - so don't you think there is more to it than that? There is.

I would rather pay for good and immediate health care than have the government pay it for me while i have to wait for several weeks to receive it and then the health care still not be good after the wait. People die in that time.

That is why all the citizens who can afford it come here for their health care instead of staying in their own nations with your "mandated" health care as you call.

Answer 8

The degree to which we have lost our way in this country is no better typified than by Bush indicating his choice to veto this bill. It is not new, for remember it was Reagan who declared ketchup a food group and promptly cut funds for preschool nutritional programs that led to the deaths of thousands of US children. We have been fed a big lie and swalloped it with gusto. Bush has a defense budget and add ons for Iraq and Afghanistan that total close to a trillion dollars for this fiscal year, yet when it comes to the well being of children as opposed to weapons manufacturers or big oil companies, the question is suddenly raised as to "how are we going to pay for it?" We take very good care of corporations and their CEOs, Halliburton and the like get endless no bid contracts for whatever they choose, yet children and the elderly are neglected beyond the point of a national disgrace and shame. Our values are clearly indicated by our choices, and our choices are not pro life.

The only way to change this is for all of us to get informed and vote en masse for what we know is right, rather than allow the likes of Bush and Cheney to tell us what is important and what we should choose to support.

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Answer 9

All children are in need of health care whether they are poor or not. Since most middle class people can't afford healthcare for their children let alone for themselves, I'm for Universal health care where our tax dollars can do some good for our own country and people. And, I'm for an end to this needless war.

Answer 10

Unless every human being is engineered to be perfect and selfless, government run programs rarely over long term. Those who pay taxes will not be happy and those who abuse will laugh their way to the bank. This is open ground for laziness and lies.

I would prefer if government would make sure jobs stay inside the country so everyone is fully employed and keep the dollars valuable.

Answer 11

Only Liberals view these two issues together.

Conservatives have been upset about increased social spending, which is not Constitutionally required, while our nation is at war. A well regulated militia is Constitutionally required.

It isn't one or the other. The income threshold was too high (and check out the real deal on this plan, and you will see that it has been in place since 1997 and was set to expire--the only issue is the income threshold).