Why did Bush veto CHIP?

Question

Hasn't he screwed with the American people enough? Now he has to take away healthcare from children? When is that bull going to stop? Because it dosen't apply to him, it is unnessecary? Get that creep out of office, and keep the CHIP program.

1. I DID read the bill
2. Healthcare should be a right, not a privilige. Everyone deserves equal healthcare

texlokman- I guess you feel really big posting garbage like that right about now. I do have a job. An honest one. Worth more than what Bush thinks he has. Great welfare joke. I'm like busting my sides with your wit

*rolls eyes in disgust*

Answer 1

Well, you kinda answer your own question, but I'll give you my 2 cents: W doesn't care what Americans want; he thinks he knows best, mostly because sycophants like Condi, Rove etc. constantly tell him so, and all the while Cheney is pulling everyone's strings like a malevolent spider in the middle of its web.

Answer 2

The entire thrust of the Bush Junta is, in the words of one of the current GOP movers and shakers is to 'reduce the size of the federal government by starving it to the point where it can be drowned in a bathtub'. As on the Ferengi homeworld, everything that can possibly be privatized will be privatized. Wage-earners of course will be told this will 'cut their taxes'...what it doesn't tell them is that they will all be 'private contractors'. The flaw here is that trans-national corporations will also be 'private contractors', but p/c's with the heft of government but without the responsibility of government. In short.....unless you're really big, 'yer screwed! The public is treated 24/7 by the right wing talk show varmits that the non-existant 'liberals', and 'the far left' want to introduce 'socialism' making citizens 'slaves to the 'nanny' state', and to 'raise your taxes, and to 'restrict your choice', and to teach your kids to be gay, and to hate America and a laundry list of like wise BS. The horror of all this is that these extraordinarly creepy characters really believe this nonsense and totally refuse to see past their ideology. Once you get past the flag waving and the appeals to 'Jesus' and the seething propaganda aganst the poor, and the almost poor, the unions and the lower middle class in general you see a government run by and for the trans-national corporations and the already well off....a sort of royalty with some kind of divine right to rule. Maybe we can vote these bums out of office, but there's an odds on chance we won't. If we don't.....goodbye USA!

Answer 3

He doesn't have much to lose at this point, and it's what conservatives wanted him to do. At least now he's finally acting like a true conservative. I think CHIP will probably be reinstated at the level that it was before, without the proposed expansion.

Heath care needs reforming. Right now, the parmaceuticals are running health care - that's why it's so expensive. By trying to create a national health care program, democrats are playing right into their hands. Then they'd be able to charge whatever they wanted! It's not the system - its the cost - it gets higher every year, just like college tuition (but much worse), and no one seems to care. People used to protest price hikes, but now we just roll over.

Answer 4

Will someone please show me where in the constitution says the government must pay for health insurance? The job of the government is to protect the borders and the national interest, and make laws to protect the people. If we can start removing these expensive entitlements, then we can lower our taxes enough to be able to afford insurance.

So stop ranting about losing your welfare benefit, get a better job, and start supporting yourself.

Answer 5

He's not taking anything away. He vetoes a vast unnecessary expansion to the program to include upper middle class families. It was a horrible bill that you clearly did not read or you would know the correct acronym is SCHIPS.......

Answer 6

We already have wasted too much money on healthcare that goes to pay for illegal immigrants! Healthcare is NOT a right; it's a privilege, although there are SOME people who do need government help.

If you make healthcare a right, my friend, that puts government more control in the average civilian life. We're already being told how to raise our kids, we don't need more imposion.

You're also looking at increased taxes. Where does healthcare actually come from? TAXES. Anything created by the government is tax-driven. If government starts to give us schedules on when to go see the doctor, without us having say of when, where, or who, then that decreases our personal freedom.

When you have the idea of "equality," that cannot be accomplished. Because sooner or later, those at the top of the list are brought down who originally carried the lower. When everything is at an equal point, things degrade themselves. Those who work hard to be at the top fail to have that increased output when government steps in and takes things away. In due time, everyone will lose.

Equality is a socialistic idea way of thinking. Picture it this way. Suppose you have 5 students studying for a test. Amy. Bret. Chris. Dan. And Emily.

Amy wants that good grade and studies HARD. She gets a 100. Bret studies but not as efficient as Amy and gets a 90. Chris and Dan semi study but receive 80. And Emily, who doesnt study at all, gets a 50%.

Now suppose that teacher looks at the grades and says, "Poor Emily. That's not fair she didn't get a 100%. Well I just take Amy and Bret's score and give part of theirs to Emily."

So if the teacher were to do that, the grades would like something like this due to equality:
AMY - 85 / Bret - 80 / Chris and Dan - 75 / Emily -70. Emily still isn't in the lead but she's not failing.

How do you think Amy and Bret are going to feel? Cheated! Why? Because the teacher made the decision to try to put everything equal and in some sense, "be nice." But on the next test, do you really think Amy and Bret are going to want to study hard anymore? Of course not! Even if they did well again, they're going to lose their grade again to some lazy bum!

If those 5 students started to not study at all, and everyone got zero's, how is the teacher going to pull in that extra high grade to suffice the losses on their part? There won't be any grades to begin with!

Likewise, it paralles to the government. You start giving government the right to control and make decisions in our lives, everyone is going to lose. That's why are Founding Fathers created the Constitution the way it is. Let the people decide not government.

Answer 7

Poor children already qualify for medicare. This program had a upper income level of eighty odd thousand dollars. In Manhattan, that is not enough to afford health care, but in most of the country, if you are earning that kind of money, you can pay for your own health care.

And he was not TAKING AWAY anything...he was just NOT EXPANDING what is there to way beyond where it should go.

You really need to read the bill. It was not what the liberals would have you believe. It was socialized health care - Step 1. It should have been vetoed, and Bush had the balls to do it. Bravo. Lately he has been acting pretty liberal. It is about time he started acting fiscally responsible again.

Dina...well said. And Bravo for you taking responsibility with your 3 kids.

Answer 8

Well, he has an agenda: All the other ignobly esteemed worst presidents got there for what they DIDN'T do; GW is trying to get there for what he DID do.

What an @$$.

EDIT: Those claiming the $83K cap are wrong. Read the details of the bi-partisan SCHIP plan: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14962685 It was a request from NY that was denied.

Answer 9

Because it was the first step to socialized medicine by the Dems. They were including families making $80,000 a year and kids could stay on the free insurance until they were 25. Do you want to pay for that as a taxpayer?

Answer 10

Because the current bill added middle income families making 80,000 a year and illegal aliens. 80k families can afford health insurance and people who don't pay taxes shouldn't get free healthcare from people who DO pay taxes. The 20 billion set aside for lower income American families is still there and that's how it should be. If the dems didn't try to bribe middle America and hispanic voters with this added pork it would not have been vetoed.