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Is him saying that he wants to provide healthacre just for poor kids really a reason that other other children rich, middle class or poor shoudl be provided healthcare?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/03/bush.veto/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
Bush exercised the veto at 10 a.m. ET before leaving the White House for a trip to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, to discuss the federal budget and taxes.

Speaking in Pennsylvania, Bush said he vetoed the bill because it was a step toward "federalizing" medicine and inappropriately expanded the program beyond its focus on helping poor children.

"I believe in private medicine, not the federal government running the health care system. I do want Republicans and Democrats to come together to support a bill that focuses on the poorer children," the president said, adding the government's policy should be to help people find private insurance. Watch Bush explain his veto »

Democrats quickly took to the floors of the Senate and House of Representatives to condemn the veto of the bill that received bipartisan support.

"I think that this is probably the most inexplicable veto in the history

2007-10-03 10:01:59 · 25 answers · asked by TD 3 in Politics & Government Government

25 answers

Because all he cares about is continuing to try and legitimize the war in Iraq, which he now realizes, too late unfortunately, was a huge mistake.

And because he has never in his life had to live on the lower end of the pay scale, so he has no clue what it means to struggle to pay the bills, keep food on the table, and keep the family healthy.

3 thumbs down? I guess some people don't like to hear the truth. Bush has not a single clue what it is like to live on a low income, I'd like to see him try and live on mine. HA!

To by or whoever the Avitar with no name is: I personally know 2 people in Florida, both are pregnant, one now has a high risk pregnancy, and 2 other children. Hubby lost his job, she can't work, they got evicted from their house, and the State farted around for at least 2 months before these folks could get any kind of help. Not even emergency housing or food stamps.

She had to go to the ER because she couldn't even keep water down, and the nurse had the nerve to treat her like a low life drug addicted whore, because she #1 came in in boxers and a t-shirt, no shoes. (She was brought by ambulance in the middle of the night) #2 had not had any pre-natal visits with her Dr. since she was in the ER 4 weeks prior, because medicaid kept jerking her around and her Dr. would not see her with no money or insurance, no other Dr. would either. This nurse disconnected her IV, spoke to her like she was stupid and on drugs, because she was lethargic from dehydration, and exhaustion. Kept taking her warm blanket off of her even though she was freezing, kept demanding that she speak to her, even though she was so exhausted she could barely keep her eyes open. Then to top it all off, no one would let her use a phone to call her husband (who was home with the other 2 kids) on his cell phone because it happened to be a long distance number. She ended up WALKING home over a mile and 1/2 in the middle of the night, barefoot!!! You can bet I called the Hospital Administrator as soon as I heard what happened, and this nurse HAS been disciplined. But because my friend was still fighting the system trying to get some help, (even though those of the minority races seemed to be getting all the help they needed and wanted ahead of her), she ended up in the ER twice, has been treated like the scum of the earth for no other reason, than that she had no money, due to circumstances beyond her control, and now has a high risk pregnancy because she was not able to see the Dr. in a timely manor. (by the way, she was on BCP's when she got pregnant) It still took another 2 weeks before she finally got her medicaid because too many people just looked down their noses, made assumptions based on I don't know what, took their sweet time, and really just didn't seem to care. All...because her hubby got laid off from his job, the company went bankrupt, and he didn't even get his final paycheck. (He did immediately start looking for another job) Unemployment was not too eager to speedily help this family either. I also tried to get them help with emergency housing, and help with the bills through various charities, but none of them seemed to have the money.

I don't know what it's like in your state, but I can tell you in Florida, they make it as difficult as they possibly can, (unless you are a professional at working the system). They make you jump through nearly impossible hoops to get any kind of help, especially if you are white, unfortunately, but it is true. So now tell me their is no need for a national health care system. By the way, even though my other friend had NO income and has a baby, and needed temporary help until she could find a job, she got completely denied for any kind of benefits, because she made too much money. Explain that one!!!!

And this is an absolutely 100% true story, I did not make this up in any way.

2007-10-03 10:14:21 · answer #1 · answered by CSmom 5 · 2 4

This is probably the most sensible thing Bush has done in years. This program would cost billions, and would put the government in control of too many people's lives. Socialized medicine is the worst thing that could happen to individual's healthcare. I know it sounds unfeeling, but at least Bush had the guts to do it. The Senate just approved another $150 billion for the war by a 92-3 vote because too many people are afraid of looking bad and not supporting the troops. Politicians need to start doing the right thing, not what looks good in the paper.

2007-10-03 10:14:26 · answer #2 · answered by smartsassysabrina 6 · 3 2

IT IS a step toward Federalizing medicaid we DO NOT NEED BIG Governement People!!!Thats what DEMS want you to think... look deeper my friend. Children DO HAVE healthcare medicaid or chips or what ever the state care is, the chips program pays everything you just pay a monthl;y premium based on you income . If it does then they help w/ costs. PLUS St Judes PAYS Hospital bills if you can't pay, Charities like Ronald McDonald House & a thousand other non profit agencies help american & NON american children when in need, drug co will pay fro scripts. COME ON.... this is the land of opportunity not the land of hand outs
These things that are being pulled by the Democrats now are Lies by Omission.
This is a TRUE story. After 9/11 my husband was laid off as many were, he works in the aircraft ind. We were covered until midnight, the the end of that year & then COBRA was supposed to kick in but it was actually a joke ( I was pregnant, & had my baby 3/02.) We had no ins if it wasn't for state & b/c my husband was rcving' unemployment & another child we had to pay something like 12$ per person for the state ins. (not medicaid) Guess how much I ended up paying out of pocket? NOTHING to have a baby. My 1st child cost $500 premium plus some other misc charges & my last baby about the same. Those 2 were w/ employee ins. Nothing needs to be done about ins for kids I KNOW 1st hand this is a PLOY to get people on thier side!!! ... am not happy to share this misfortune in my life BUT you all are being DUPED by these left wing, christian hating, want to raise YOUR taxes & will do/say anything to get elected democrats.

2007-10-03 10:44:33 · answer #3 · answered by Tammy 2 · 3 3

Ya know this makes my day even more stressfull. I have a child who since age 5 is type 1 diabetic. My employer DOES NOT provide health care and i Can not afford healthcare for him. Therefore the State i live in provides it with a co-pay. I have no problem with the co pay but if he was to be kicked off this program i would have no choice but to quit my job so he could receive healthcare coverage. Have you ever tried to pay for One vile of insulin? $100. Not to mention that would be times 4 a month plus all other needs it figures rightr around $1000.00 a month. Bush needs to wake up because i know i am NOT the only one in this position Hell add a co-pay what ever but please don't take my child's coverage away!!

2007-10-03 10:45:24 · answer #4 · answered by lostlifehard 2 · 3 2

His problem is with expanding the program to people who can afford their own health insurance. Why don't you take the time to read up on the issue before you state "...problem with providing health care for children?" Among the problems with the bill as written is the fact that the Democrats are using a bogus assumption that the cost of this program will diminish by 2013. Anyone who can think would realize that is a lie.

Based on some of the answers, I'm wondering if a majority of Democrats are illiterate?

2007-10-03 10:06:55 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 4 4

It's the money and the wording of the bill which allowed free health care for "children" in their mid 20's. It was a foothold in socialized medicine which we cannot afford and was using children as shields so that the public would take up this banner. Bush said he would veto this bill for these reasons, the Dems pushed it for their political reasons. He vetoed it—no surprise. The basic health care for children will be continued and even expanded but not under the conditions of the bill proposed..

2007-10-03 10:04:28 · answer #6 · answered by DrB 7 · 1 5

This question was already asked and answered in a better way. We're mistaking pure political strategy for the party's actual position on the issues. We need to do more research.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsefI4_U_cOxbnRpaYM2nXbsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20070926190856AAV4QGp

"With a little research, it's easy. Republicans, especially President Bush have already agreed to raise funds to insure poor children (children in families making less than $42,000) by more than 60% in 2008. Democrats siezed a political opportunity and rewrote the clause to include families earning up to $82,000, multiplying 6 fold the cost. Knowing republicans will not pass another huge spending bill, they have another sound bite for elections next year." -Pancakes

2007-10-03 10:04:20 · answer #7 · answered by Buying is Voting 7 · 6 2

This policy is yet another example of the insanity we live with. Why would he NOT give medical care to children of Iraq? His family has become so much richer after rubbing elbows with the enemy. No sweat (or financial burden) on his back.

2016-05-20 00:55:05 · answer #8 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Because he and the republicans accept huge amounts of money from the AMA and HMOs to keep the status quo.
America's shame is the fact the richest nation on earth has one of the worse health care systems in the world. You're better off to live in China or Cuba or India than the US if you're old or sick.

2007-10-03 10:10:31 · answer #9 · answered by PuckDat 7 · 2 3

I don't know. I actually cried a little when I read it. I make to much money to qualify for medical aid for my children and can barely make ends meet paying for the insurance through my husband's work. His insurance costs us over $1000 a month for 2 adults and 4 children. My oldest is autistic and needs 2 different medications. My second oldest is bipolar with aggressive tendancies and needs medication to help keep it in check. What does he expect the American people to do?!!

2007-10-03 10:09:20 · answer #10 · answered by firey_cowgirl 5 · 4 3

I don't understand this veto either. There are so many families without healthcare in the US. And the families that do have healthcare are going to see another increase in cost making it more expensive for dependents. Its a shame that we can't have basic healthcare for our kids.

2007-10-03 10:08:46 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

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