What do you think of people who come up with conspiracy theories when the facts stand against them?

Question

A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES:

I post evidence proving the vast majority of scientific organizations engaged in climatic, geologic, and meteorologic research support man made global warming.

They say oh, they're all blatantly lying and doing it for the money OR they say that these people are part of the socialist conspiracy to destroy capitalism.

I post evidence in the form of real GDP, inflation adjusted median income, tax revenue, poverty rates, etc, showing the economy growing at a faster rate under keynesians then supply siders.

Cons say, oh well I don't trust statistics. I don't believe anything from the Department of Treasury, Census, Bureau of Economic Analyses, or even Whitehouse.org because they're all controlled by liberals and cannot be trusted.

I have saved actual posts by cons saying this. I will bring them up if needed.

Answer 1

People are going to believe what they want to believe. All anyone can do is present them with information and let them come to their own decision. I do have to agree that we are severely overpopulated and that is doing more harm than good, but I don't want to get to deep into it. My fiance is into conspiracy theories and politics, and I do have to say that not all conspiracy theories are completely incorrect. Its up to each individual to figure out what they think is the truth, given the evidence presented. Just don't get upset because people don't always agree with you. There will never be a time when everyone will agree with anything. Just stay true to yourself and your beliefs.

Answer 2

I had to laugh at Pilgrim's response, which is exactly what the OP was railing against. I have no problem having a critical attitude toward prevailing institutions, but these criticisms have to be based on the rule of evidence if they're to be taken seriously. By way of an illustrative example, it's not enough to believe that educational standards in schools are falling, you have to present evidence that they are. Here in Britain, evidence of this type is provided by the state, but is always monitored by teaching unions, parent groups, think tanks, etc. and on.

Similarly with the question of global warming, the sheer weight of scientific opinion supporting the argument that the human race has put sufficient quantities of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere to have an impact on the world's climate is overwhelming. You Pilgrim may not like that conclusion, but if you want to be taken seriously you have to demonstrate according to the rules of evidence that this isn't the case.

However, it is unlikely that you will do so. You can't even check a basic fact concerning the political career of Winston Churchill, because it runs against the grain of your 'people don't elect nutjobs' thesis. Well, for your information, Churchill was re-elected in 1951 and served until 1955, when he resigned.

Answer 3

Exhaustive and a waste of energy better spent elsewhere. Like in an old fashioned library or in classes. Science prevails yet? So, it's your right to press on. But consider you been had.
It's an election season. Politics as usual.
And then you ask is global warming man made? Well the planet and early man lived thousands of years and since the Industrial Revolution and modern times we have quickly , in what 300 years(less actually)melted glaciers and ice on poles that nature depends on to cool us off. Latest reports by 2100 there will be no North Pole. Look it up.
Science, i'm telling you it's powerful stuff. Thanks.

Answer 4

the last ice age was ended by global warming as were the 16 previous ice ages, millions of years before the first man burned the first piece of coal, so who's fault was it then? these are the problems with all statistics, there is always an agenda behind it, no one does a study just for the hell of it, and when was the last time a study was published were the finding went against the original hypothesis?

Answer 5

The left and the final the two have their ultras and neither can administration their own.human beings are helpless witnesses/ victims. hands is the main ( to regulate human beings, no longer ultras)... genuine gets them thro' taxes and left gets them thro' marxism . In all, it somewhat is bravado to call a conspiracy a conspiracy...that's a fact !

Answer 6

Whatever...there's a million studies saying everything under the sun (yuk yuk) on global warming...there's no concrete proof that global warming is appreciably affected by human beings...if we start living in caves tomorrow nothing is going to change, but if you want to go live in a cave be my guest.

I would say global warming nuts are the conspiracy theorists.

Answer 7

i would like to know how many of these people have anykind of degree or experience in the fields they discuss. most of them dont to be honest. they do a lot of research and because of that they think that they "know" the subject. its a joke and they are waisting time. and when i say experience i mean years apon years of trainning and hands on experience. not watching a few videos, reading a couple of books, and spending hours online

Answer 8

Some of them are right, but NOT the neocons. The socialist conspiracy to destroy capitalism is false.

Answer 9

They're right.

Your flaw is that you trust authority, and that is as far as you look for your "evidence".

People like myself look beyond the authorities to the underlying facts upon which those "authorities" base their conclusions.

If you could (but you can't because of your personality type) look beyond conclusions drawn by authorities, you'd find that:
1. evolution is impossible, that
2. global warming is caused by a declining magnetic field and the heat is generated by the resulting increased gravitational forces creating increased pressure (pressure=heat), and is not man-made, that
3. 96% of your dollar has been removed by those "authorities" you cite since 1913 when the federal reserve act was passed

I know you don't have the capability to understand people like myself. You dismiss us as "conspiracy theorists" and discredit us as "tin-foil hat nut-jobs" because you are a well-adjusted individual who was nurtured and loved as a child and were well provided for in a loving-caring home (probably by both parents).

You learned to trust people from the time you were born. You're probably have an attractive appearance and don't get much negative feedback from others. So it is impossible for you to change your world-view to a more skeptical and cynical view. Nothing I say can change the way you perceive the institutions and systems in place in our world, so I understand that I'm not going to change your mind.

People like you are the reason Adolf Hitler enjoyed overwhelming popularity.

People like me are what the Winston Churchill's of the world are made of.

He was dismissed as a nut-job too, until Germany invaded the Sudatenland. Then, all of a sudden, he was the authority and Hitler became the nut-job.

Didn't you ever wonder why Winston Churchill was not re-elected after WW2? People (like you) went back to viewing him as a nut-job after the war was over. He ran for Prime Minister twice, but never gained re-election.
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Answer 10

I think these people are part of a vast conspiracy to discredit your theories.... or maybe they are aliens that the government has kidnapped.