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Vetoing healthcare for kids? It is morally wrong to abort a cluster of cells the size of a peanut, but it is ok for kids to suffer from disease and or injury, both of which we'll shape their long term development and options? Making parents choose between the kids health and other bills? Damn. Please clarify, especially if you can tell how the "free market" will take care of this issue.

2007-10-03 03:59:30 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Politics

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Since many Repulicans are wealthy, they have no idea what it is like to live on an $8.00 job, and still pay the $800.00 monthy rent, (and I'm being conservative), daycare, utility bills, gas, groceries, etc...yet we are expected to pull money out of our a-s-s, or work 2 or 3 jobs, and have no life, or quality time with our families. We live on cheaper high carb foods, (getting fatter every day), we are stressed out, because we know we are doing the best we can, yet it is still not enough. There is no time to go to school to "better ourselves" so we can make more money, our children are excluded from the "better Daycares" and Schools, because of demographics, and income. Heck they can't even join the football team or be a cheerleader, because it costs money that should be covered by the tax dollars, and lotto, for uniforms, etc... We are denied credit, because we are already "robbing Peter to pay Paul." or, if we do get credit, we pay an astronomical interest rate because we are "high risk", making it even more difficult to keep on top of the bills. We can't afford health insurance, because it would take an additional $150.00 to $250.00 out of our already too small paychecks. But everytime they raise minimum wage, everybody uses it as an excuse to raise their prices, because, OMG it might cut into their profits a tiny bit. Gasp...

Somebody has to work the low wage jobs, yet they are not entitled to the same health care as someone who makes $25.00 per hour? Most of the lower wage jobs, are the most dangerous jobs, where people are most likely to get injured or sick. But because we are making less money, and if we do get sick or injured and have no cushion to fall back on, we end up needing a little help.

What the Republicans don't understand is, they are cutting their own throats, because not providing our children equally with good quality health care and education, we repeat the cycle, as well as end up taking care of them later in life through Medicare and Social Security. Part of the problem is eating the affordable high carb diets, leads to obesity, leading to diabeses, heart disease, and a host of other health problems. Stress causes unforseen health problems, and when you live on a low income, stress is a major factor. Thus ending up on SS earlier than we should, because of poor health. Or someone gets injured and disabled on the job, and only gets minimal compensation from work comp, and ends up on disability. It is really a viscious cycle.

Then when we do end up needing help, we are looked down upon, because if we are poor, or need assistance, then we must be stupid. It makes me sick!!!!! I worked as a Medical Receptionist at a Clinic for a Specialist, and still only made approx. $8.50/hour. A perfectly respectable job, that just doesn't pay worth a ****. And there are so many jobs like that out there. Even with two people making that same income, if 1 of them loses their job, they end up homeless, living in the car, with friends, what ever they can to survive. IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY, THIS IS AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE.

But the Republicans, are so wrapped up in their narrow minded idealistic world, they can not see beyond the end of their noses, and simply do not have a clue what it is like to live in the real world.

I'm trying to give them a few.

To Libsticker: Not all Libs as you put it, live beyond their means, many Repubs do as well. I for one, do not drive a new car, do not own a boat, do not have any credit cards, do not go out and party every night, do not do drugs, I don't even own a freaking house. I do have, and have always had Health Insurance for my family, even though it did cost us an arm and a leg. We just have had circumstanses that are beyond our control, happen usually right at the time we have mangaged to once again crawl out of the hole, that have thrown us right back down the tube. Despite our problems in life, all 3 of our children have grown in to productive, compassionate, intelligent, taxpaying citizens, just like the rest of us. Part of the problem in this country, is that people are generalized into groups, instead of looked at as individuals, with individual circumstances, consequently the abusers are able to continue to abuse the system, when they don't really need it, and many honest people, who need help the most, are denied any help, because they made too much money the previous year,(or some other rediculous technicality based on the BS they are put through filling out mountains of paper), even though their circumstances have completely changed. And the so called Bush tax cuts supposedly helped the middle class? Well we ARE the middle class, and the tax cuts have not helped us a bit, but they sure have helped out those who make a heck of a lot more money than we do. So try to think a little before you go spouting off about us Libs living beyond our means.

2007-10-03 06:24:14 · answer #1 · answered by CSmom 5 · 1 4

Took at a description of the Partial Birth Abortion and tell me what political party hates children. Imagine sucking the brains out of a LIVING child! EDIT: If you AREN'T a Democrat then you don't have any reason for asking such an ignorant and loaded question!

2016-05-19 22:41:28 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

Go ahead and keep falling for the lies. "Oh, this is health care for children". Well that is what the libs called the bill. What it is really is a way to get government more involved in our lives. And we know how much money gets wasted when the government is involved.

So Libs believe there should be free health care for everyone. Listen - it ain't free. Somebody has to pay. List for me how many people are out there that have no health care that can't afford it, and I will work with you to get a program to get them care. But good grief, don't make it universal. I want to have a say in my care.

And, more importantly, I don't want to pay for those who can pay and don't. A classic example was in the news last month. A woman had to go to emergency because she had no health care. She was treated and cured of her ailment. Why did she not have health care coverage? I don't know, I can only guess. But the news report did say she got ill while on a Caribbean cruise. A CARIBBEAN CRUISE?!! She can't afford health care, but can afford a cruise?

You want to pay for her coverage so she can cruise, go ahead. I would like to go on a cruise, too. But if I have to pay for everyone else's coverage when they can afford it and choose not to, I won't be able to afford it.

The plan included way too many people who don't need it. The bill expanded the definition of a child to include 24 year old married people and the income level was too broad. Send a bill that takes care of the needy, not everybody they can try and shoehorn into a bill, and maybe you would have a signature, not a veto.

Just because the Dems call it a health care bill for kids doesn't make it one and doesn't make it right, either.

2007-10-03 04:17:32 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 6 1

The market won't take care of this issue. I don't hate kids, but I don't want to pay for somebody elses kids either. Would you give up welfare or limit it to 12 months in a person's life to pay for health insurance for kids. If so you've got a deal. I'll pay for their insurance if I don't have to forever support their worthless parents.

All the Dems want to do is spend, spend, spend, but they never talk about ways to deal with the root of the problem. I am not the person responsible for somebody else's kid not having insurance nor is it my job to ensure they do. Why don't the Dems start suggesting programs which can be cut to cover added cost of the insurance for all. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a good percentage, not all, but a percentage of the parents who have kids without insurance probably shouldn't have had kids in the first place.

So my question for you is: Why do the Dems continually want to take my money to pay for the have-nots to get what I have? Where does anything say they are entitled to it.

2007-10-03 04:08:03 · answer #4 · answered by Breacher 2 · 4 2

Making parents chose between that shot of vodka or health care you mean. Making parents chose between a snort of coke you mean. Making parents chose between a new car or health care you mean. Making parents chose between hitting the slopes or paying for the doctor you mean. When will you self righteous liberals understand that it is not mine and every other taxpayers responsibility to manage your money. You act like 90 percent of the people without health care are bare bone poor, when the truth is (look around your neighborhood or in the mirror) that most people that don't have any health care live way outside their means and choose to have a new things instead of taking care of their family. My kids have health care, because I find that is more important than going to Disney Land or buying a new set of shoes every time the neighbor gets a pair.

2007-10-03 04:21:23 · answer #5 · answered by libsticker 7 · 2 2

This question was already asked and answered in a better way. We're mistaking pure political strategy for the party's actual position on the issues. We need to do more research. Check it out:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqDieSWLSnuM9XlBHFCZSGrsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20070926190856AAV4QGp

"With a little research, it's easy. Republicans, especially President Bush have already agreed to raise funds to insure poor children (children in families making less than $42,000) by more than 60% in 2008. Democrats siezed a political opportunity and rewrote the clause to include families earning up to $82,000, multiplying 6 fold the cost. Knowing republicans will not pass another huge spending bill, they have another sound bite for elections next year." -Pancakes

2007-10-03 04:04:13 · answer #6 · answered by Buying is Voting 7 · 3 2

Generally I don't think Republicans hate children however there are some in control of the Republican party who are more interested in corporations and war than the will of the people or what is good for the people of the country. They obstruct any reasonable bill put forth in Congress for the betterment of the average working person like you and me.

If they have the guts to override Dubya's veto they will win the hearts and minds of people who are not seeing them in a very good light right now. Coninuing to obstruct the people's will and voting against that which helps people merely means more votes for the Democrats in the elections next year. Maybe they don't care about winning the election.

2007-10-03 04:10:10 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 5

Republicans, of which I am one, love children just as much if not more than Democrats. We just don't feel that the government should be responsible to pay for health care for all of them. I'm sorry but if a family makes $80,000 a year they should be able to pay for their own health care. If they can't then they should look at where all of their money is going and maybe cut back in other areas. Too many people put things like a vacation, or a more expensive car, or designer clothes, or the newest IPod, or IPhone, or a wide-screen TV ahead of things like health care and then they whine that they "can't afford" to pay for it.

2007-10-03 04:14:12 · answer #8 · answered by The Oracle of Delphi 6 · 4 4

Maybe Republicans think it's not the governments job to raise and take care of everybody's kids.

Maybe the parents should have thought about how they were going to care for the kids prior to having them. I for one shouldn't have to pay for someone elses kids.

2007-10-03 04:06:27 · answer #9 · answered by ? 3 · 6 1

Tell you what, when democrats and republicans can fix or help our countries ever increasing debt (w/o raiding social security or other funds), then wake me up. Until then, I'm still voting for Ron Paul.

2007-10-03 04:22:16 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Why do you hate children? The only way to pay for this is taxes. Taxes are not voluntary, if you don't pay them, the government destroys your life and puts you in jail. So the only way to fund the SCHIPS program is to FORCE money out of the hands of some children (taxes) to give to another. That's your idea of compassion? Steal money from 10 children to give to 1? Don't ask for charity, don't lower taxes, don't spur the economy, just steal steal steal? That's your answer? How stupid and uncompassionate does that make you?

2007-10-03 04:09:38 · answer #11 · answered by Aegis of Freedom 7 · 4 3

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