Is Joe Torre a good manager or was he in the right place at the right time?

Question

I ask this b/c as some of u know i have been a big Phil Jackson basher always pointing out that he was a coward for not taking the Nets deal & took the easy way out by joining the Lakers where i stated that even my grandmother couldv'e won the NBA Championships with the talent he had with the Lakers as well as the Bulls. I always made Bill Parcells a perfect example of a man who went to 4 teams & turned them around after they where so horrible before he showed up. Phil Jackson defenders have asked me why don't i say the same thing about Torre? My defense was that he did manage a couple of bad teams & some ok teams before he came to the Yankees. So my question is. Is Joe Torre in your opinion is a good manager or do you think he got lucky like i always state about Phil Jackson?

Answer 1

I think he is a good manager. To guide a team to the post season for 13 straight seasons really says a lot. Also he has to deal with a lot of players with huge contracts and probably huge ego's, and he takes it all in stride.. For him to deal with all those hundreds of different players for 13 seasons, and still have them go to the post season every year, that says a lot..And I absoultely hate the Yankees, but you have to give credit where credit is due.

Answer 2

Joe was a pretty decent ballplayer which doesn't necessarily equate to a good or great manager. Joe was in the right place at the right time to be sure, but there is one factor that makes him a good manager. He just happens to be good for this particular team. Hot heads like Billy Martin and even someone like Larry Bowa (former big league manager and 3rd base coach of the Yankees) never really lasted too long with their teams. Joe, on the other hand, had and still has the right temperament for the job and specially in New York. He is a calming effect for that team who all have to deal with the pressure of the Big Apple.

There is no question that Joe had a very talented team to work with and to his credit he figured a way to get the job done with that talent. There are other managers out there with comparable talent that never get it done.

I always think of Casey Stengel who was about a six pack short of a case, but he had the talent and was the first manager to platoon right and left handed hitters. He also got the job done.

I'm with you when it comes to Phil Jackson, hell, I could have coached those teams and won!! lol

Answer 3

I don't recall him doing much with the bad Mets and Cardinals teams he managed before he got the Yankees job. He did win a division with the Braves, but that was a decent team that then slipped down the next two years. If he was really that good a manager rather than a manger with a very good team, those teams would have overachieved, wouldn't they? You'll often see good managers get teams without talent to play above themselves, and Torre didn't do that.

Answer 4

I believe there are certain managers that fit certain teams. I don't think that Torre is the type of manager that can take over a struggling franchise (same with P. Jackson) and turn it around. The opposite is true for a manger like J. Leyland. I don't think JL would be as successful managing a team full of superstars. That being said, Torre has been a perfect fit with the Yankees.

Answer 5

I don't think he's necessarily a good manager as far as the actual game goes. He is very good at keeping his teams working together even when some of the big name players are busy hating each other or somehow creating distractions that would derail pretty much any other team. I think he has the perfect personality to deal with the media in NY and with all the talent on that team, they really don't need Torre to be a good game manager. They need him to be a mediator and shrink basically.

Answer 6

first of all, i'm a purple Sox fan. I even have seen some video games the area judgements he's made i presumed had a unfavorable consequence on the sport, and that surpassed off approximately 4 circumstances. the guy's controlled what a million,one hundred-some ingredient wins and four WS and 13 placed up Seasons with the Yankees. They (Steinbrenner & Sons or Cashman) are actual retarded to enable him flow. Who the heck do they think of of they are going to change him with? Mattingly? Mattingly grew to become suitable right into a 1B, All-action image celebrity. stable Managers (of the nicely-standard a Yankee supervisor could desire to opt to be) are the two Catchers or Pitchers, not First Basemen. I propose his first 365 days there he controlled a word series win... yet yet another ingredient as straight away as we had that knuclkehead Dan Duquette he spent lots time blaming people ... after a on a similar time as there grew to become into no one left to blame. a similar ingredient will ensue to Cashman (who looks like a typical long island city sleaze bag after all). decrease returned, as a purple Sox fan, it fairly is super information. i'm hoping Torre is going to Texas, he can paintings some magic with them. he's an chic guy and he will have a solid destiny. Yank followers get waiting for us to take many extra advantageous branch Pennants now which you have have been given in elementary terms enable the main experienced and argueably the main suited supervisor in baseball walk out the door.

Answer 7

I think he was just in the right place at the right time.................... he had young stars like Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera and Jorge Posada just starting out and an owner with an open wallet...................... just about any halfway-decent manager from Double A could have won a World Series or 2...................... I would love to see Joe Torre manage the D-Rays and go up against the Red Sox, Yankees and Blue Jays for a quater of their schedule, or the Pirates with practically no payroll..................... then you would see just how good, or bad, he really is!

Answer 8

Personally, I think anyone in that position would have done the same job , considering the talent that he's handed every year.

Look what he did with the Mets, Braves, and Cardinals. That, I think tells a much better story; and in 1982 in Atlanta, he was in a similar position as he is with the Yankees.

In this department, the Mets are way ahead of the Yankeez, the fired him 26 years ago.

Answer 9

torre is a good manager cus the yankees were slumping and they were not believing in themselves torre did turn the team around. there is a lot a of talent on the team im not saying hes lucky, but he puts them all on the same page

Answer 10

I think Hes a good Manager because he does have the Talent to work with , but being a manager is much more than just having the talent its dealing with all the egos each have the talent each have to deals many aspects of there game