Should we recognize Israel as a state while they reject the right to exist for Palestine?

Question

For the outside world, Israel's demand for the "right to exist" seems a natural enough request and easy enough words to say. However, most people have no idea of the real import of those words for the Palestinians. For them to accept the "right to exist", effectively means that they accept their own dispossession. That dispossession is still going on after 60 years and there are now some 6 million Palestinian refugees who are refused their right to return home or even a modicum of compensation. And, that is not counting the 4 million Palestinians under Israel's occupation who daily see more of their land taken from them while they are squeezed and contained in what remains, or the 1.5 million Palestinian citizens in Israel whose rights are being increasingly compromised and denied. As long as the Palestinians exist, Israel will always see them as an obstacle to its ultimate quest for an exclusively "Jewish state" in a greater Israel.

Answer 1

I've wondered if I was the only one who thought the ethnic cleansing was, and is, going on in Israel. It's a complicated situation, and I don't support Hamas or Hezbollah, but I do feel sorry for the Palestinians who have been forced to become refugees in other countries. As long as we totally support Israel, the Arab world will hate us for what we've allowed to happen to the Palestinians. You are right, and it is a mess!

Answer 2

The UN,NATO and basically the whole world should not recognise Israel as a true country at this point and heavy sanctions should be put in place against them.

This should only change when they agree to go back to the old 1948 borders and allow all the rest of the land they now occupy to be used in the creation of a separate and fully independent Palestinian nation.They should also have to compensate the Palestinian people for the last 59 years

Answer 3

The only place in the world called Palestine today is in Texas.

It is from the term "Philistines" that the name "Palestinians" has been taken. Actually, the ancient Philistines and modern Palestinians have something in common: both are invaders from other lands! That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective applied to them: Peleshet, from the verb "pelesh", "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as "Sea Peoples". The main tribes were Tzekelesh, Shardana, Akhaiusha, Danauna, Tzakara, Masa or Meshwesh, Lukki, Dardana, Tursha, Keshesh or Karkisha, Labu and Irven. The original homeland of the group that ruled the Philistine federation, namely the "Pelesati", was the island of Crete.

Bottom line: There once was a place called Palestine. There never was a Palestinian People.

Since the rebirth of Israel, hundreds of thousands of Jews from Arab lands have swarmed into the new state. In 1948 more than 850,000 Jews lived in the Arab world. Today there are fewer than 29,000, a shadow of the former ancient community. Most of those Jewish refugees fled to Israel. Where did they come from with such urgency -- and why?

Contrary to the myth that Jews lived in harmony with the Arabs before the Zionist state, innumerable authoritative works document decisively the subjugation, oppression, and spasmodic anti-Jewish eruptions of violence that darkened the existence of the Jews in Muslim Arab countries.


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Answer 4

The UN,NATO and truly the full international shouldn't recognize Israel as a genuine usa at this element and heavy sanctions could be put in place against them. this could in basic terms substitute while they adjust to return to the old 1948 borders and permit each and all the the remainder of the land they now occupy for use interior the introduction of a separate and totally self sufficient Palestinian usa.they could additionally could compensate the Palestinian human beings for the final fifty 9 years.

Answer 5

If Israel wanted to take all of Palestine they had 60 good years to do it. Through military force they could have occupied all of Palestine, kept the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, and grabbed southern Lebannon as well; if Israel was what most people portray it is, a country that likes to occupy and "steal" people's land. They gave partial government control to the occupied territories (Gaza Strip no longer) and offered to negotiate numerous times with the west bank and other Palestinian groups. I would like to add that Israel traded the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt for it to be recognized as a country.

Answer 6

Today's Israel was conquered by Muslims in the 7th century. Both cultures have legitimate reasons to live there. Arafat had a sweet deal during the Clinton years to have a Palestinian state but turned it down in favor of the turmoil that made him 100s of millions of dollars his remaining family now spends in France where they live. Both sides need to be tolerant of each other and live together in peace. Let their makers do the judging.

Answer 7

When Israel was created from British controlled Palestine, they partitioned the country into two parts, Israel and Jordon. The areas controlled by the new Palestine are the territory captured by Israel from its Arab enemies during the 1967 war, if I am not mistaken.
A deal was brokered to give these territories up in a "land for peace" deal." Israel gave up the land, but got no peace. If the Palestinians wanted to live in peace with Israel, it would be an easy deal. Obviously, they don't want to.

Answer 8

I will say what I have always said. If the people who call the shots wanted to give Israel a stable country, without causing problems in the middle east, they would have never put them there.
We could clear up 90% of the problems in the middle east, if we just packed up all the jews, and gave them a 10 mile wide strip on the US-Mexico border stretching from the gulf of Mexico, to the Pacific ocean.
All the arabs would be happy, the pals would be happy, they would probably be sooo happy, they would give us a discount on that arab oil.
Then Israel could defend our southern border, for all that money we give them to defend their own, now.
Would cure illegal immigration, cure any terrorists getting through there, and save tax payers a huge amount of money.

But that would make too much sense, they would rather kill each other over a bunch of sand, and rocks. If that is the way they want it, that is the way they should have it without the USA footing the bill.

Answer 9

Wellll....Israel's ¨right to exist¨ may seem ¨natural¨ to you but the only thing I see is the 'accomplished fact' - it exists, therefore it has a ¨right¨ to exist. Since there are no ¨rights¨ in Nature, Israel doesn't have a ¨natural right¨ to exist. It only exists by force and by exercising military power, backed by the U.S.,the world's most powerful country.

Palestine knows that it will cease to exist if it can not stand up to the force exerted on it by Israel. Palestine is not only facing up to its nemesis ,Israel, but this poorest of nation states also has to contend with us!!

So far Palestine has continued to exist as an entity in the eyes of the world by the skin of its teeth. While exerting ever more cruelly drastic measures against it, Israel complains when Palestine fights back! But only by fighting back can Palestine continue to be a reality. This is the position thrust on them by the logic that Israel uses to justify its own existence. By choosing to give unquestioning support to Israel, we(the U.S.) have pushed Palestine to seek allies in unpalatable places.

If Israel wishes to take its place among the nations of the world which wish to live in some sort of peaceful co-existence and according to the recognition of un-natural rights which have to be artificially agreed upon, then it should cease trying to make existence impossible for Palestine.

So far,all I see Israel doing is following the ¨natural law of the jungle¨(dog eat dog) with our blessing and to the tune of billions of our tax $$ in aid and armament.

By taking sides so unfairly with Israel,we have made Palestine into a cause for certain radical elements in the Islamic world to rally around.

You know,maybe we should have given the Zionists half of Utah after WW II. Then they'd be fighting it out today with the Mormons. Palestinians would still be tending sheep and watching their orange trees grow and pressing olives,much as they had been doing doing peacefully since before the Christ and until Israel decided to acquire the ¨right¨ to exist..

Answer 10

Yes we should. The Bible command such. They have a historical right to that land. Remember the Abrahamic Covenant those who bless Israel shall be blessed amnd those who curse them shall be cursed anti-semitism is the working of the Devil.

Genesis 12
The Call of Abram
1 The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and your father's household and go to the land I will show you.
2 "I will make you into a great nation
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.

3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you."

Joel 3
The Nations Judged
1 "In those days and at that time,
when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem,
2 I will gather all nations
and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. [a]
There I will enter into judgment against them

You seee the verses above if we dare have the hubris of dividing God's Land Israel we will pay dearly!!!!!!
In fact God is agaist Esau which is the desendants of the the PALESTINIANS:

15 "The day of the LORD is near
for all nations.
As you have done, it will be done to you;
your deeds will return upon your own head.

16 Just as you drank on my holy hill,
so all the nations will drink continually;
they will drink and drink
and be as if they had never been.

17 But on Mount Zion will be deliverance;
it will be holy,
and the house of Jacob
will possess its inheritance.

18 The house of Jacob will be a fire
and the house of Joseph a flame;
the house of Esau will be stubble,
and they will set it on fire and consume it.
There will be no survivors
from the house of Esau."
The LORD has spoken.

God shall obliterate them!